SPOILERS: More Relationship Drama!

The spoilers are trying to kill my inbox! Here’s the latest from E! Online about Chuck:

Megan in Eugene, Ore.: Please tell me the rumors aren’t true that Sarah and Chuck will be apart this season on Chuck! What can you tell us about Brandon Routh and Kristen Kreuk?
I can tell you that Brandon Routh and Kristen Kreuk are rolling in on Sarah and Chuck so fast it’ll make your Shuck-loving head spin. I’m hearing that episode seven is quite the doozy: Chuck and Hannah (K.K.’s character) share not only a kiss, but they then go on to treat the Buy More’s Home Theater Room like a no-tell motel. Meanwhile, Shaw (Brandon Routh) and Sarah have one of those, “Oh my god we’re gonna die, so I may as well tell you I love you” moments. I know. My soul just threw up a little too. The only good news? Kristin’s character Hannah is so not what she seems, and I don’t think she’s long for Chuck’s world. (Especially since she was nowhere in sight when I visited the set last week. Aces!)

Not even sure what to say here, except suggesting that all comments be in haiku since we’ve read everyone’s opinions on the matter at least 9 times before. Might as well add some originality if only to the format.

On the “original” side, at least now we know that Hannah IS more than just the nice girl Chuck met on the plane. But is that good, or bad?

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  1. …I have no idea what to say to this. Makes me think two things: one, this is a giant swerve and/or not as bad as they sound plot points that resolve themselves relatively quickly (in order to make us fans froth at the mouth) OR two, Schwartz and Fedak have no idea who their fanbase is and will now promptly ruin the show. I’m really pulling for the latter.

    I may be forced to watch this episode at hulu after it airs just so I can know what I’m walking into.

    • What can we expect the show is produced by Schwartz, anyone remember the OC? He loves the back and forth of love triangles and I would guess will only allow characters to get together when the series is over. Otherwise there is no drama in that department and it gets boring. Just so long as he doesn’t kill Sarah in a car accident caused by a jealous Brandon Roth, as Chuck drives her to the airport so she can leave on a mission. I mean it’s already been done Schwartz.

      • Sarah has never told Chuck she loves him–If she tells Routh that then she must think more of him than Chuck-barf–If Chuck and Sarah are not together by the end of season 3 -I hope there is no season 4 to suffer through.

        With Routh being in 8 episodes he could really put a damper on season 3–if he beds Sarah I would have give up the ship.

  2. Episode 7 is what would have been half-way through 13 eps, so I’m hoping that it’s just mid-season drama that sets up a finale where Chuck and Sarah realize that it’s each other they were meant to be with.

    I believe the plan is to put them together, but they can’t just do that without building up some tension first. That makes the reward greater.

    • yeah, because two years of tension weren’t enough…right…

      • really great.. i will have to check whats shes playing i guess its voice over. Mass Effect 2 does look great. Loving Call of Duty right now. Yeah they may need to look for other work given there is unlikely going to get the fans to save the show again. Ali is right we will feel a hollow feeling I am getting to feel very hollow about Chuck and Sarah as they seem too flaky and shallow to me.

      • Well Tim, season 3 regardless…Yvonne is a great actress and if anyone is clear of blame at whatever will be there next year it’s her.
        She is definitely not to blame.

      • Yes indeed it’s not the actors I am beginning to dislike it’s the characters. Just saying they may need to find jobs soon. Which I hope they do as indeed they are decent actors. It’s a shame when shows get to the point where the fans start to lose interest due to its direction. A funny thing happened to me reading this I found I was neither surprised nor disappointed. I guess it’s like shock therapy.

      • Look how Friends treated Ross and Rachel. They were destined to be together again after they broke up, but it took them until the end of the show to reunite them permanently.

        I hope Schwartz and Fedak don’t wait until the end of the run to unite Chuck and Sarah permanently.

  3. Well, it has to be misdirection or some sort of sleight of hand, otherwise apart from some deluded denizens of this site there will be no viewers for the show after this kind of catastrophe.
    That is why this is ‘probably\'(I am exercising caution)not what it seems.

    • sigh one more episode not to watch. The more I read the less i want to watch next season. I missed 3 episodes last year. If this happens it seems Sarah does fall in love with whoever she works with it makes the scence she had with Chuck less special. Chuck should run a mile. Mind you Chuck getting it on with Hannah well not much to say sounds like hes turning into a scumbag. Maybe thats why Sarah looks elsewhere. Oh well call of duty is out and its great.. and mass effect 2 is out early next year know what will be on my TV some early next year. Really does any of this sound at least a bit appealing? Who cares about season 4 not sure its worth watching most of season 3 and it seems we take so much stock in what we are told thats its COOL – well no it does not sound cool. It did not sound cool at comic com seems that its gotten worse from that point. I feel myself becoming more numb to this show.

  4. All I can say is Kristen’s spoilers rarely pan out the way she documents them.

    Think about how Chuck and Sarah have behaved in the past two seasons. That is the yardstick for dealing with new spoilers.

    • what do you mean by that Lou ?

      • Exactly what I posted. How have Sarah and Chuck behaved in the past? How does their behaviour stack up against new spoilers – especially misleading ones like Kristin posts.

        Trust the characters – not the spoilers.

      • That’s what I’m trying to do. Hopefully TPTB follow this as well. Maybe this is just gossip or an exaggeration? It sounds like it.. I hate this tabloid-like sources.

        I can accept them not being in a “relationship” for a while, no problem it could work well, BUT them sleeping with others no, just no. I’d be to hard to buy.

      • In Ali we trust, In Ali we trust, In Ali we trust…

      • I don’t trust her, but I trust S&F fear of abandonment…lol
        and that is why this is(hopefully) just a trick of the light or something to that affect.

      • S&F abandonment? My turn to ask you for clarification.

  5. This is Kristin that we’re talking about. She loves to exaggerate her spoilers. Sometimes they do pan out, but in a totally different matter.

    But lets use some logic here. Do you guys really think Sarah would say ILY to Shaw after about 3 episodes? That’s never going to happen. She never said that about Bryce, nor has she said it to Chuck. No way will she say it to Shaw.

    Plus this episode (7th) that Kristin referred to is called “Chuck vs. The Mask”. That in itself should give you a hint as to what Kristin is talking about Hannah.

    • BM King ,I think most people are more worried about Sarah and Shaw than Chuck
      and Hannah…I know it’s uneven and probably wrong but that’s just the way it is…lol

      • I worry about them equally. At this point, neither one of them has an excuse to shop around for other lovers unless they’ve come to some sort of mutual understanding in episodes 1-6.

      • NO, I treat them both equally, especially after all this time.

    • Thank you for brining back logic when emotion threatens to take over again. Never mind 3 episodes, I can’t see Sarah saying ILY to Shaw after 33! Remember it took that many for her to ask “two beds?”
      Not sure I follow on your comment about vs The Mask – but I am slow on the uptake sometimes.

  6. OK…I’ll go the happy route just this once.

    Sarah and Shaw have one of those “Oh my god we’re gonna die, so I may as well tell you I love you” moments and that’s it. They have the moment, but there’s no actual confession of love, kissing, fondling, or steamy hot sex involved. Maybe Routh makes a move and Sarah knocks him on his posterior.

    Hannah’s not what she seems. Maybe team Chuck figures it out and Chuck has to seduce her. The kissing and the theater room action is just to get Hannah to discard any weapons along with her clothing and lure her into a position where Chuck can handcuff her to the furniture.

    • I was thinking the same. If Hannah is actually a bad girl, they can’t do a “Jill 2.0.”-story line again, it would be boring and a repeat of S2 and I also believe in character developement. Maybe Chuck has learned his lesson this time and is trying with team chuck to bring her to talk about the ring.

      About Sarah, I’m not worried, since I believe in Sarah Walker.

    • I like your thinking. It would be SO against his nature for Chuck to have sex with some new girl, since he would still find it difficult to work up the nerve with Sarah, if the opportunity were there. He’s sure not going to get to that point quickly with someone else. He is a shy guy, and he’s not an animal. The only way it makes sense that he would be getting hot and heavy with some chick is that he’s doing it as part of his undercover work.

      Sarah might have her head turned somewhat by a gorgeous, muscular body, but her heart belongs to Chuck.

      For this “spoiler” to be what it initially sounds like, would require new writers, or a shake-up in which the writers decide to change the very nature of their characters. Since we, the fans, love and support the characters they’ve created, I don’t think that’s going to happen.

      • What about the scene in the promo where Sarah kisses Chuck and presses his hand in hers–looks like she is at a train station with her bags behind her. To me it almost looks like she is going away–perhaps she has to do that in order for something traumatic to happen to drive her into Chuck’s arms—it would seem something big has to happen. I was shocked when I saw the deleted scene from the ring where Sarah destroys Ellie’s bouquet when it is coming straight to her–I could not believe they even thought about that scene. It was like saying I don’t care for any man that much. If my take on the scene is accurate (and nothing says that it is) the angst would be hard to take until it was resolved–especially if Sarah bounces around with Routh and tells him she loves him–which she never said to Chuck. Routh being around for 8 episodes may be more than I can take.

  7. Though Hannah being involved with The Ring seems far fetched to me at this point, that scenario could be the reason why Chuck would be kissing her in the Buymore. For example, he may be trying to get close to her in order to set her up and with the knowledge that she is evil and he would play her feelings for him against her. Also, it may be another situation similar to the one in 2.14 where Chuck sacrifices his friends feelings in order to keep him safe by seducing Hannah away from Morgan so she can’t sink her claws in to him or possibly get him involved in the spy world.

    As for Sarah possibly telling Shaw she loves him?!? I started laughing when I read that. I mean, who the hell pulled that crazy BS out of their tushy? That would be the most OOC moment this show has EVER had if that were to transpire.

    All in all, I wouldn’t give any credible creedence to these spoilers whatsoever at this point. And even if any of it is remotely true, just remember like Happy has been saying, it’s only to strengthen Chuck and Sarah’s relationship in the end.

    • That makes a lot of sense to me. Hope it’s something like that. Yeah, noone here would buy hearing Sarah say ‘ILY’ to Shaw and mean it. NO way!

  8. Well episode 2.7 was where Chuck went too far last years so…I’m sensing a theme in their arc layout…

    • Good catch. They do seem to be pacing things out in certain patterns. If they stay true to form, then 3.03 should involve a very emotional Chuck/Sarah moment, 3.04 should give us more on Sarah’s backstory, and 3.07 should be a major turning point of some kind.

  9. Josh Schwartz: Charah’s done
    Shaw sticks his fork in Sarah
    OldDarth: It’s still fun!

    Josh Schwartz: You’ll love it!
    Me:If your life needs more angst
    make your wife date Routh

    Chris Fedak: Too bad
    Chuck’s Banana’s in Hannah
    OldDarth: Keep the faith

    Chris Fedak: We lied
    Me: Yeah, and no one’s watching
    The audience died

    My apologies to OldDarth. He just happens to be the most optimistic of fans and I ran my Haiku as dialogues.

    • LOL! Well done! It’s nice to know at least one person around here reads the posts all the way through.

    • “Make your wife date Routh” whahahahaha….I fell on the floor laughing so hard.

      Concerning this spoiler; a lot of words are tumbling through my mind, but my message would be blocked if I would put them here. If this is a joke it’s a terrible one. This actually make’s me want to skip the entire third season.

    • I am honoured. Especially since I seemed to have survived in the last verse. 😉

  10. Oh please, Hannah and Chuck were already desribed as having serious feelings for one another. So I think Sarah having feelings for Shaw is likely, if Ausiello is right with Chuck/Hannah, and he always is with Chuck. Chuck & Sarah having feelings (not saying they’re gonna be in love with other people, not at all, I think Kristin overexaggerated there, to get a reaction) for other people isn’t an outrageous thought. This isn’t one of those lovey dovey fairytale romantic stories where Chuck is the only one Sarah can ever have feelings for in the entire universe, and visa versa. This is television. Besides, this time around it’s much more jucier and feels more real. That will equal even jucier CS scenes.

    That being said, I really hope this is the last of the love interests.

    • Chuck has never been a “lovey dovey fairytale romantic story”. The point is will anyone still care for these characters after the Hannah/Shaw storm has passed? If this spoiler is correct, I won’t.

      • I know, I was talking about the fact that people seem horrified at the fact that they could develop feelings for other people. (not being in love, however) Like I’ve said, this is television, you just have to ride out some things. I’m just thinking of the pay-off in this, then I’m alright. ^-^ Besides, alot of tv shows I’ve watched have done things like this, (except there would be a spouse involved, another aspect of forbidden love, etc) so I wouldn’t be too phased about this.

    • yeah because it’s very real, that people who have deep feelings for each other for two friggin’ years will not act upon them…yeah right.

      • It’s going on 4 years for me and someone I refer to as The B. For various reasons, we just haven’t been able to make it happen, despite caring deeply for each other. In the meantime, he’s dated a couple of other women. It bothers me a little, but we weren’t together and it didn’t look like we were going to be any time soon, so I can’t fault him. And it’s not like I haven’t been tempted by other guys in the meantime. Just sayin’.

      • I’m sorry for you Mel, but usually people who like each other as much
        as Chuck and Sarah do, don’t act like two teenagers O.C style, sure it might take them more than tow days, or weeks, or even months…but two
        years…come on.
        People in love go to bed immediately, having those kind of feelings for
        that amount of time and not acting upon them, and on top of it turn around and go do it with other people…sorry, that’s not realistic.

        Alex

      • “People in love go to bed immediately…” Really? That’s your definition of love? Then you’re DEFINITELY ‘shipping the wrong pair! 😀

        Maybe it’s unrealistic in your experience, but not in mine.

      • Nor mine – lasted 7 years. Now we’re married for 30.
        A happy ending – go figure!

      • My definition of Love is that it doesn’t remain in the realm of longing and pining and wanting, but after two years of that it has to be a matter of doing…each other, not other people.

        Alex

      • I probably shouldn’t let myself get drawn into this, but…okay, I’ll bite on this one. 🙂

        In my book, a big part of love is wanting what’s best for the other person. Sarah was clearly portrayed as believing, rightly or wrongly, for most of the first two seasons that having a romantic relationship with Chuck would put him in some kind of danger. Sarah knows her job isn’t conducive to “normal” and she also knows that Chuck has repeatedly stated his strong desire for his life to return to “normal.” When Jill came around and at first seemed to really love Chuck for himself, even though Sarah was sad she couldn’t have him, she was happy that Chuck had a “real relationship.”

        So in my book, Sarah has actually been subtly declaring her love for Chuck with her actions for quite some time now. That she can’t or won’t show her love in a more overt way, or declare her love in words, makes sense for the character.

      • ‘My’ being the operative word.

      • “People in love go to bed immediately,”

        Not all people. Sometimes people are still in school (university) and don’t have a proper job to support the family so even if they’re in love, they wait till the right moment. People in the military are also another example. Sometimes people are too young and decide to wait till they grow up more and to comit in marriage (yep, believe it or not). Or in this case with C/S, maybe the new Intersect is a new obstacle somehow?

      • All right. You have all properly hammered Alex for his ill-advised statement as to what people in love immediately do.

        The point is he’s right in that a person who genuinely loves another person can’t keep kissing the first pretty face or first beefy guy who comes down the pike, simply because obstacles are placed in front of them. Because their relationship isn’t neatly wrapped up in a package with a bow or conforming to “normal” social mores.

        OK. We get it. True love is forever, it is the most precious thing in the world, is worth fighting for and yes, often does not happen overnight. But these characters need to exhibit their own sense of patience. This is getting ridiculous. These characters we love and admire so much, heroes if you will, are starting to appear very cheesy and disengenuous. Alex is sick of it. A lot of us are.

        I’m praying and hoping that these spoilers are aforementioned exaggerations, deception and perhaps some mighty fine spy work.

      • Thanks Kg, I didn’t scream out for defense…but I appreciate your gesture and your thoughts.and yet I don’t think my statement was ill-advised, reality proves that on 90 cases out of 100, and even if the people who replied have witnessed other options, this state of being still applies…but hey, I wasn’t even suggesting immediately, how about two weeks…no, OK then,two months…still no, right then, it has to be two years…still no…Hey, what the hell…

        Alex

      • Chuck and Sarah’s situation is far from real, lol. The existance of the Intersect 2.0 in Chuck’s brain, and Sarah still acting as his handler for the time being (as Chuck will have great dificulty in controlling the Intersect, the possibilty of himself and Sarah being together for real before he gets it under control is not likely, it’ll be too dangerous. However they might try to make it work in the first few episodes, and find out the hard way, we shall see) makes their love very dificult, complicated and forbidden. It’s not that they don’t want to, they just can’t.

      • didn’t you just said “this time around it’s much juicier and feels more real”…
        and now you say that their situation isn’t real…
        which one is it Burkey, you need to pick one…lol

      • That’s not what I meant by “real”. I didn’t mean it as realistic. Just more… raw, it seems to be more serious, you know? (Although this may apply more to Shaw than Hannah) I could never take a love triangle (or whatever the hell this is) on Chuck seriously, I just might this time around.

        I hope that explains it, lol.

      • yeah, also let’s remember that both Chuck and Sarah are still pretty young people (they’re in their late 20s, right?), so they are still figuring out what they REALLY want out of life, including a life parter. And in their case, it must not be a very easy decision.

      • they were already on the verge of commitment in “Vs. The Colonel”…come on people, it’s very unsavory to get amnesia in such
        an early stage of life.
        No figuring out(they’re not teenagers), and no contrived LI’s can explain this situation…there got to be a blind spot in this somewhere, otherwise it’s just stupid.

      • Again, I’m speaking from personal experience when I say it’s NOT unrealistic to care for someone, to be very attracted and ready to commit, but have life throw some obstacle at you (in my case, he had to move away for work and I wasn’t in a position to join him).

      • As am I, but our experience doesn’t matter here Mel…this is not the case with Chuck and Sarah, the situation here is a clear case of outer intervention in their natural progression, An obvious obtrusive intent to prevent them from ‘coalescing’
        (lol)as a couple, and not realistically either.

        Alex

      • And Schwartz and Fedak have said, on the record, that at the beginning of Season 3 “something traumatic” has happened between Chuck and Sarah. All kinds of things could happen to stall a relationship between two people, neither of whom are very emotionally mature and who both work in an unpredictable field.

      • Well, that was because he wasn’t the Intersect anymore. And before the Intersect was taken out they were either on the run, or facing an imminent future in jail. Very different situations.

        The writers were just teasing us then, I think. Now they’ve gone two steps back with an even bigger obstacle that still makes it fresh.

      • more like a fresh corpse…

      • Actually, and as newbie watching Chuck and correct me if I’m wrong, I don’t think Chuck and Sarah have had a REALLY PROPER and FORMAL boyfriend/girlfriend relationship yet. Or have they? I dont think so. At least not like what Awesome and Ellie had.

        There is still SO much too talk yet –what their dreams, hopes, goals are, how many children they want, where they want to live–. It seems like so far their “relationship” has been so primal and instinctive. Something to think about. 😉

      • yeah, time to move forwards not backwards.
        Time to talk between them and not with other people…and time to act on their irrevocable passion.

  11. OK, maybe Chuck and Sarah have a strong disagreement and decide that things are just too complicated at this point in their lives. We know that Sarah is unhappy with Chuck’s decision to upload the Intersect all over again. Dramatically speaking, it’s a valid sentiment, why not? If someone doesn’t like it and prefer that things go very smoothly between them when it comes to their love relationship, well, sorry. But some of us are fine with it, as long as later they realize that they work better together and that the love is so big and deep for each other that all the other obstacles between them are not big enough to keep them apart. Name it the Intersect, their line of work or even other people (Shaw, Hanna).

    Yes, you can be attracted to more than one person, and even have feelings for them at the same time, AND you Can fall in love more than once. I’ve you’ve lived long enough you’ll know this. I just really, really HOPE with all my heart that Chuck and Sarah end up together at the end of this adventure because that’s what ALL of us want. Fact. And if the showrunners have not realized that by now, well.. how sad. But based on the first 2 season of smart and witty writing, I’m very hopeful they KNOW how we want this adventure to end. Please don’t screw up.

    • A fine pot of fish
      When you rescue a woman
      And she throws you back

      Chuck saved Sarah
      Somehow it’s a deal breaker.
      Can she forgive him?

      A trial breakup
      Hopefully they were truthful
      before they gave up

  12. Hi guys this is BMB I used to be a member of the forums left for awhile but I am considering returning, because as frustrated as I get with the direction of this show, I still love talking & watching Chuck.

    The thing that upsets me with this show is this:
    I feel that the vast majority of the fanbasehas made it very clear to the people in charge of this show, what we want & that is a real relationship & romance between Chuck & Sarah.

    However, it seems yet again that the writers will find any contrived way they can to keep them apart.
    1st. Chuck was an asset & not a spy. (They Could’nt be together) Now Chuck is a spy & on more of an equal footing with Sarah yet, they still can’t be together!
    The bothersome ting for me & probably alot of others is this:
    The fans that love the spy action seem to get what they want every year. The folks that love the Buymore stuff & the Comedy get a good dose of what they enjoy.
    However, the Romance, that has hooked people since ep. 1 & is the beating heart of this program (I Believe!) We fans that love this aspect of this show, always seem to get denied! I’m sorry, I just don’t buy the they can’t be together till the end of the show argument If writers on a show are good at there jobs Chuck & Sarah & the fans could have the relationship we all want & still have a good show.

    JS & CF say they love the fans. That may be true, except for those fans that love Chuck & Sarah’s relationship & want it to grow.
    Much of the fanbase seems to get what it wants from this show. Except those of us who love the Chuck & Sarah Romance.

    • I think there are 3 imperative words here :trust and delayed gratification.
      We didn’t create this show, but we love it. We have to trust that those who are in charge know what they are doing with the show!!!

      Yes, we all want Chuck and Sarah together at the end, but I often find that “good things come to those who wait”. After multiple obstacles, it’s only that much sweeter when things (in this case people!) actually get together.
      We just need to be patient and enjoy the ride.

      Think about it – what happens if Chuck and Sarah openly declare themselves and sleep together? What then? It’s not like they are going to settle down in the suburbs and get a dog (we have seen how that turned out!). Although some fans are loathe to admit it, the great chemistry and will they/won’t they actually adds a lot to the show. I bet if that aspect of the show is settled well before the end of the series it will take something away from the show.

      I’m perfectly happy to wait and see how it all happens and enjoy every twist along the way, even if it isn’t exactly how I’d have written it!

  13. Alex, you’re still not hearing what I’m saying: you say the obstacles in Chuck & Sarah’s path are unrealistic. I’m saying I’ve been in a similar situation for several years. Are you saying my life isn’t real?

    This is a TV show, yes, I’m well aware and that’s why I can’t get as worked up about it as some people. I’m also well aware that there’s plenty of unrealistic elements on the show (hello, Intersect). The point I’m making is that claiming the obstacles between Chuck & Sarah are “unrealistic” is both wrong and attempts to simplify what is not a simple relationship. I’m happy to agree to disagree with you, but only if I’m sure you understand what we’re disagreeing about! 😀

    • that’s a little condescending while being false at the same time…a rare feat of itself.
      However in the name of simplicity(for the other poor souls who happen to listen to our futile argument), I’ll just say that I don’t think the handling of their relationship is realistic,even if you claim to be living a similar situation yourself(sorry).I don’t think their relationship is simple at all, but I vehemently feel and think that it’s being over complicated in purpose, up to the fact that me(and quite a few others) consider it to be a bigger stretch of ‘the suspension of disbelief’ than the frelling Intersect itself.
      So here, I relayed to you what we’re disagreeing about.
      I hope it’s good enough.

      Respectfully
      Alex

    • I’m sorry to interrupt here, but to me it seems you’re only reading what you want to read. Furthermore if the situation is realistic or not is really not the issue, the simple fact is that a lot of people won’t watch Chuck anymore if the above mentioned spoiler is correct. It’s not what we want to see. If I would want to watch that kind of drama (yech) I would watch Gossip Girl or something like that.

      But, for the sake of argument,I agree with Alex that the way the relationship is handled between Chuck and Sarah is far from realistic and, above all, it’s frustrating.

      • were you talking to me or to Mel ?

      • I was Talking to Mel.

      • I’m reading (& listening to) everything, comparing it to what I know of the characters and past actions, throwing in a dash of salt since Kristin is known for being more sensationalist than accurate, and then drawing my own speculations based on all of that intel. We may end up in different places, true. The proof will be in the pudding, as another Charles (Brown) liked to say.

  14. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!

  15. I find it funny and sad at the same time that almost noone is paying attention/commenting about the new and very informative interview with Ryan aka Capt. Awesome….

    https://chucktv.net/2009/11/09/show-patrol-talks-with-ryan-mcpartlin-spoilers/

    Lots of fans are saying that it is all bad and dissapointing news right now, but I think I disagree with that. Perhapz they haven’t yet seen this interview? Hmm, sigh

    • Oh, I’ve read that and while it’s encouraging that Awesome will talk to Chuck “Break Up” style(the same way he spoke with Bryce) about Sarah and it’s funny he’ll be lost like Chuck was in S1(in the spy world), and it’s dramatic that it will cause some tension between him and Ellie…you also have to be even and look at the downside of his stuff: “Hannah will be a ‘little\'(whatever that means) love interest for Chuck”, and the mere fact Chuck needs awesome to tell him to ‘be’ with Sarah is problematic on its own.
      Other than that, he looks really happy to be there…hopefully that says something…(see, I’m not all gone…lol)

      Alex

  16. Someone in the forum (sk85) pointed out something I thought was of interest:

    “They [the showrunners/actors/writesr] are emphasizing relationship difficulties and new love interests.”

    What do you think, is this a diversionary tactic? Are we being fed relationship spoilers (or non-spoilers, as the case may be) to keep us from catching on to more important developments? We’ve been getting bits and pieces about The Ring, Shaw as mentor/team leader, and now Hannah “is not what she seems”, but it’s always in conjunction with something that will ignite the Chuck/Sarah discussion again. Coincidence or conspiracy?

    • I find it interesting that at last yrs Comic Con JS said that there were enough natural obsticals in place to keep C & S apart for a little while longer.

      He also said that he was conscious of what the fans wanted, that the show was trying to keep a delicate balence of all it’s aspects & the writers were aware of the possibility of not trying to lose any of the base by making them angry with keeping C & S constantly apart.

      Well, if that is the case having new love interests for these 2 & possibly keeping them apart for possibly yet another whole season, without their real feeling s for each other being expressed & explored, is not very appealing to me or many in the base I believe.
      So yes, Mel I hope your right & much of the bad news in terms of the relationship heading into this season turns to the good & was just a divirsion.
      I am very unhappy so far though.

      • Also, I do not find new love interests yet again, to be a natural obstical to keeping Chuck & Sarah apart yet again.
        Not after 2 yrs of their feelings for each other building as they have.

        I think it is just a contrived way to mess with a fanbase that has lovingly supported the show for 2 yrs & fought for its return for a 3rd.

        I keep hoping for this real relationship payoff, that never seems to come, between Chuck & Sarah & reading of season 3 & what may happen between these 2 has me very disappointed so far.

      • To BMB:

        Amen to that!

    • I will not be surprised, since it has been The Bobs way of misdirection and half(or even quarter…lol)truths since the beginning, what troubles me is that all of the cast is playing along, and that strikes me to be a bit more complicated for a conspiracy.
      Still, the option exists and they are all BS-ing us…they better be…lol

    • Good thread topic – I vote conspiracy! Along the way we’ve also heard that Shaw comes with some baggage; we saw a passport picture of Charles Carmichael used on the trip he meets Hannah. The interviews & spoilers are coming fast & furious – could an announcement of a January return be around the corner?
      I hope so. Seeing the episodes is the only way we’ll ever know for sure what happens!

  17. When will we get some (more) teasers/spoilers on either Casey or Morgan for S3? (My two favorite characters?)

  18. Okay, I gave it a go…

    Fret not, Charah fans.
    Hannah and Shaw will depart.
    True love will triumph.

  19. Come on guys. Look at the big picture. I think that we’ve been told enough to know that s3 is a great ride. It wouldn’t be a story if there was no conflict.

    If anybody truly believes that Sarah will tell Shaw ILY in 3.07, I don’t know what to tell you.

    • ahh, my liege…you have transpired here as well.
      Good to see you here also.

    • Bill, I don’t mind obstacles & challenges for Chuck & Sarah as there real relationship begins, what I don’t like is possible new lov interests for the 2.

      No matter how short lived for the both of them, I feel it is contrived & just another way to screw with the base & not give em what they want, as far as the romance that we all want to see.

      I believed all last yr that it would turn out correctly in the end.

      I trusted the writers & Ali.

      This show came very close to being cancled last yr & we still did not a true expression of feelings betwwen Chuck & Sarah!
      Chuck told his Dad & Bryce told Chuck (Almost, As He Was Dying!)

      Now, I’m being asked to trust the writers again, even as they throw more C & S relationship roadblock BS into the face of the base again!

      I am just growing a little leary of trusting this writing team, after the way season 2 ended.

      I & others want the real Chuck & Sarah Romance to start & it seems we are being screwed with yet again. I just want a payoff & a little quicker, than the last 5 minutes of the final episode of the series please! Whenever, that might be.

      Great to talk with you again Bill & everyone.

  20. I dont think Sarah Walker can say those 3 little words. Not even to Chuck. Not yet anyway. Her character just isn’t ready yet and first all, she doesn’t love Shaw.

    • Despite all this lack of Chara love I’m still excited about S3. 🙂 Than at the same time I find myself wanting to take a gun and shoot both Hannah and Shaw so that I can end all of this hate. Was that a little to dramatic? Anyways, S3 is going to be wicked man. WOOHOO

  21. Sarah/Shaw: “We’re gonna die.” – Shaw tells Sarah whatever it is that is said. OR: Shaw tells Sarah. Sarah thinks he’s going to die. Sarah tells him she feels the same for him as his “last wish.” Remember Chuck’s question? “Did you kiss me because I mine were the most convenient lips around or was it actually about me?” Obviously it was about him, but I’m guessing the first option will go for her and Shaw.

    Chuck/Hannah: I don’t even want to think about what must have happened to get to the point where Chuck has another girlfriend, but skipping ahead… Chuck retaliating from Sarah kissing Shaw? I don’t know if they kiss first, but it could happen in order for it to parallel Sarah and Cole’s kiss when Chuck didn’t do anything after. As for the Theater Room, that just screams “teaser.” I don’t think that what she’s implying is what actually happens. And if it does happen, maybe it’ll make Sarah so jealous it’ll speed up her and Chuck’s big moment.

    I trust Ali.

    • ‘If it does happen’ – meaning what, sex ?
      If that happens, there is no going back for either of them(despite the Jill
      precedent, that was inherently different)…So I’m gunning for the fact it doesn’t actually happens.
      Even though I don’t trust Ali

  22. bethany actually,

    Great posts.

  23. uhm who says that it will be Sarah saying ” i love you “, i bet it’s going to be the other way around, prolly Shaw will drop the bomb, in a way just like Sarah did in Season 1 when it seemed that she was gonna die. So i think Shaw, thinking that his life is done , will tell Sarah what he thinks he feels for her, guess kiss her and …..nothing happens, they still live!! So bring in the awkwardness and prolly the guild within Sarah and i guess the next episodes will finally see Sarah trying to get Chuck from the “evil” siren Hannah. Plus anyways i don’t really trust spoilers anyways, they are spawned from JS/CF. But imo the love interested needed to be there, cause they will understand what they are losing not being together and possibly they can grow up from the experience,because, sincerely, Chuck and Sarah, from what we know of course, only had 1 major relationship, Jill and Bryce respectively. So they might think they are in love but i guess they need to experience something different in order to finally understand what it a relationship. Hell i think they might introduce more “love interests” they need to explore all the different angles of it. But i guess we will need to wait.

  24. uhm who says that it will be Sarah saying ” i love you “, i bet it’s going to be the other way around, prolly Shaw will drop the bomb, in a way just like Sarah did in Season 1 when it seemed that she was gonna die. So i think Shaw, thinking that his life is done , will tell Sarah what he thinks he feels for her, guess kiss her and …..nothing happens, they still live!! So bring in the awkwardness and prolly the guilt within Sarah and i guess the next episodes will finally see Sarah trying to get Chuck from the “evil” siren Hannah. Plus anyways i don’t really trust spoilers anyways, they are spawned from JS/CF. But imo the love interested needed to be there, cause they will understand what they are losing not being together and possibly they can grow up from the experience,because, sincerely, Chuck and Sarah, from what we know of course, only had 1 major relationship, Jill and Bryce respectively. So they might think they are in love but i guess they need to experience something different in order to finally understand what it a relationship. Hell i think they might introduce more “love interests” they need to explore all the different angles of it. But i guess we will need to wait.

  25. Speculation is for goooobers

  26. Childish games. One need look no further than “The Big Bang Theory” to see how to treat leads once they become a couple. The show runners of “Chuck” just don’t appear to get it. Too bad.

    • Jim and Pam in “The Office” is also a good example, I guess…

    • What fans do not seem to get is that the showrunners are telling the Chuck story their way. Not The Big Bang Theory or any other way.

      • that’s exactly the problem, they are telling the story in the same worn-out
        formula of separating the leads because of the “Moonlighting Effect” and
        the “Friends” example, I.E. using the same old cliche and redundant story telling which is the opposite of creative, while I’m not a fan of either the “BBT” or “The office”(at least not the American version),they do act creatively by putting their leads together and still maintaining interest…despite “HookedAgain” and “Stargazer” , both the show are doing great and their ratings was never better.
        so there you go, proof in point.

        Alex

      • Proof in point of what? The ratings for those shows stayed the same. So the pairings had no impact at all.

        Chuck’s story is not telling a worn-out story any more than any other show is. After all, in the end, there are no new stories. What they are doing though is telling their story their way.

        Some may not like. Some do. C’est la vie.

        So far, Chuck has done a credible job of why Chuck and Sarah have not gotten together yet. From what we know of the third season it looks like even better story points have been created which will test Chuck and Sarah’s resolve. That is good storytelling and storytelling worth watching.

      • “So far, Chuck has done a credible job of why Chuck and Sarah have not gotten together yet.” – In your opinion, that is.

        From what we know of the third season it looks like even better story points have been created which will test Chuck and Sarah’s resolve. ” – right, because what we(and them,C&S) need is another obstacle in their way, yeah…really credible.

        It’s true that there are no new stories, but there can be an innovative way to tell them, and CHUCK unfortunately is not doing any of that(despite my S1 thoughts).
        and regarding BBT ratings…that’s just not true, they’re enjoying the best rating ever, even though their leads are together.(but even if it only stayed the same, it proves that you can being your couple together and not lose any viewers, if your writers are good
        enough).

        Alex

      • Of course its my opinion. I am incapable of channeling.

        For clarification purposes, the rest of the post is your opinion, no? 😉

        BBT ratings jump is due to its move to a new time slot not the direction change of the show. More folks are watching it live instead of DVRing. That is a fact.

        You think Chuck is not being innovative. I do think it is.

        Your point about bringing a couple together and not affecting the show quality is one I have no problem with. Chuck will get there when the story reaches that point.

        Right now, the show has told 1.5 seasons worth of story. So if anything the pace of the relationship is being moved too quickly. Most shows did that in 3 or 4 seasons. It seems only fair to give Chuck the same chance.

      • actually some parts of my post were fact not opinion.
        My opinion is that a story could only benefit by bringing Chuck and Sarah together(ASAP), the fact is BBT has done that
        (brought her leads together and survived…pretty well).
        My opinion is that CHUCK isn’t being innovative from season 2
        onward…the fact is that the writing hasn’t shown anything innovative in that time, regarding S3…the spoilers don’t look promising, but maybe they’ll prove me wrong.
        I agree that the relationship was moved relatively ‘too quickly’ in S1(against The Bobs will),but that is an already established fact. any attempt to stop it or to slow it down is bound to be forced,contrived and artificial.

        Alex

      • You could just as easily be wrong. Putting Chuck and Sarah together could ruin the show.

        TBBT has gone unchanged because the fact is the relationship is unimportant to the show unlike Chuck. Break them up on TBBT and it is doubtful there will be any change in show’s quality and numbers.

        The spoilers for Season3 sound very promising. Heck just the new dynamics of Intersect 2.0 is enough to raise hopes. Moving Chuck from a mostly passive to an erratically active member of the team and having him in the trenches will boost the show significantly.

        Throw in the Ring, Devon knowing about Chuck, the guest stars lined up, and yes, even the relationship stuff, and if one does not consider all that innovative then time to change the channel. IMHO.

    • TBBT?? Seriously?? Chuck is nothing like that show, besides the geek references. Thank God.

    • You know – I was pulling for Leonard & Penny to get together – now, I’m very bored with them. I hope Chuck & Sarah never are like that.

  27. My sense is that this is a misdirect on a big plot point. I would guess that they have the initial problems in 3.01, but work towards some sort of balance over the next few episodes, then in 3.04 because of her overprotectiveness they break up -again- in time for Shaw and Hannah to arrive, new love interests -again. I would guess that Chuck and Hannah’s time in buymore room is played for humor, a poorly planned seduction mission interupted by Morgan who does have feelings for her. Sarah and Shaw is played more seriously and when Shaw tells her he loves her at the point of imminent death, Sarah realizes that it’s Chuck that she wants to be with at the end. I also think we are missing important information about Shaw’s role in the bigger spy story.

    3.08 is when they come together again, remember this is an Ali Adler episode, usually their go to girl for the romantic bits. Maybe the start of the real relationship under the cover.

    Having said that I don’t think that they are done with the other love interests (as much as it frustrates me), they got another 6 episodes and if the writers track record is anything to go by there will be 2 or 3 episodes where they bring back Shaw or Hannah or Jill or Bryce or someone new. I just can’t see them going from 3.09 ’til 3.19 without revisiting the issue (they have never gong more than 6 episodes without some).

    • I don’t think that if Chuck and Sarah end up together in the 4 last episodes of the 13, S&F could possibly bring any new LI’s to the extra 6…it will kill the show immediately.

      • Quite true. Another reason for those to whom the relationship is primary to their enjoyment should be excited about Season 3.

      • so you think only the extra six will be about the relationship Lou ?

      • Tough to say. The show is going on break after shooting 3.11. That could mean that 3.12 and 3.13 could be tweaked to incorporate the new episodes. My biggest fear! I want the original 13 episode arc to remain intact.

        If it does stay intact then the relationship stuff could very well already be resolved by 3.13. If the extra 6 are treated as a mini-season it could bring in the mother(s) and/or be a nice international romp.

        For the relationship fans, if the original 13 stay intact, things could be in a state that they would be very happy with. If so, then as you mentioned, new LIs would be impossible to bring in.

      • I think that in any case new LI’s beyond these already ‘established’ will prove to be the kiss of death for the show, either within the 13 or in 19… so if (in my most optimistic scenario)Chuck and Sarah are together in 3.10 and up until 3.13…any attempt to break that in the extra 6 episodes, will cause the final alienation the fans.
        I prefer to think ‘The Bobs’ are not that stupid.

      • Do not know any ‘Bobs’ connected to the show. If that is some derogatory please keep it yourself as I have no interest in an explanation of it.

        My read is from 3.10 – 3.13 the relationship will move to the next level. Which is in line with what happened in the first two seasons. Therefore new LIs beyond that point would indeed be show suicide.

      • Routh is going to be in “approximately eight” episodes, so he will be in either two of the last four original episodes or two of the extra six. That doesn’t mean he will still be a potential love interests, but Bryce and Jill’s last two appearances weren’t that happy an event for Chuck and Sarah respectively.

      • Routh is done after 3.11 as far as I know – which is coincidentally when the show takes a holiday break. Unless Routh is signed for more episodes, highly unlikely he will be in the extra 6, especially if they treat the extra 6 as a separate mini-season.

      • hopefully, his ‘damage’ could be mitigated in the last two episodes.
        I’m not even going to talk about the extra six…first we need to see if the fans gonna ‘buy’ the situation at hand.

      • How do you know that he is done in 3.11, until last night the word was that Routh would be in “at least six” episodes. Has it been announced somewhere that it was extended to eight and that the extra two are 3.10 and 3.11?

      • I meant couldn’t…of course…

  28. i can honestly believe that if this spoiler comes to be true, there will be no fourth season. I base this on the fact that evry1 i know who does watch chuck(which isnt many) believe that Charah is the most important thing, and by reading the coment it seems lyk more than half of the pplz feel the same way. If these spoiles come to pass, there will be nearly noone to campaign for a season 4.I know i campaigned for season 3 because i believed that season 2 ended with both chuck and sarah cuming to realise that they love each other, and hence i thought they wld definately act on that in season 3. Now i m not saying that they won’t towards the end of the season, however if they both pursue reltaionships with hannah and shaw, it will make there relationship artificial and the characters superficial. If chuck has sex with hannah and sarah says i luv you to shaw, it will be a point of no return for both the characters.

    • Chuck & Sarah’s relationship getting real is huge to alot of fans maybe not all but a big number.

      I just go back to my original post.

      Every fan may like something different about Chuck.
      Some the spy angle.
      Some the Comedy.

      A great Many, love the potential of a Chuck & Sarh “Real Romance.”
      It just seems to me that the writers try to satisfy the fans that like the spy angle & comedy.

      However, the many fans that want the Chuck & Sarah Romance to bloom keep getting teased & denied.

      Like I said, this show faced the very real prospect of being cancelled last spring & not only did they not have Chuck & Sarah make love but they would not even give the fans the pleasure of these 2 telling each other that they loved each other, with the show possibly going off the air!

      New love interests for these 2 is a contrived slap in the face to a fanbase that has been very loyal & who’s wishes should be respected.

      I want to believe season 3 will be the start of a real relationship for Chuck & Sarah but the writers teased me all of last season & almost went off of the air & did not give many of us what we were hoping for.
      I want to believe season 3 will be different but the writers have abused my faith in the past.
      I don’t know what is going to happen but the S3 spoilers the new characters & there expected roles sure has me & many others depressed.

      I find a feeling of depression about what is my favorite shows new season to have zero appeal.

      • I love the show for all that it offers, but yeah, we all have enough reality in our lives. Chuck and Sarah are fictional characters we have come to believe in.

        BMB is right. The spy, action, comedy and Buy More fans seem to get exactly what they want. The romantics seem to get short changed.

        But to reiterate, I’m not as jaded or frustrated as Alex. I’m trying like hell to remain positive and optimistic. Keep teasing me I guess. They’ll find a way to get together and not just for the last five minutes of the last show.

      • It’s not a matter of being jaded(and I’m frustrated since “The Ring”, so
        there’s nothing new there…lol), just of being realistic as I’ve come to expect very few from the writers and even less than that from the producers.
        However, I decided for quite a while that I’ll watch and then decide…
        So even though I’m not expecting much, I’m not going to judge it solely
        by these spoilers, only by the show itself.

        Alex

      • Great.

        And I do know what you mean. I understand the frustration. “It IS real,” Sarah said during the last segment of vs. the Colonel.

        Then one week later, “I’m leaving with Bryce,” she says. “The rest is classified.” Great comeback by a crestfallen Chuck. “Thanks for coming to the wedding. Good for the cover.”

        Now, in fairness to Sarah, she did change her mind and was trying to explain to Chuck, but he always has to get his POV across first and then Papa Bart interrupted her as well.

        And because she’s been basically CIA since her late teens, it’s very hard for her to walk away. The general stunned her with the news at the castle. Her character has trouble saying “no thanks” to Beckman.

      • the point is,Kg, she was already set in her mind to leave the CIA in order to save Chuck in the ‘Colonel’, and if it hasn’t been for the stupid Morgan IOU bit(and the bearded buffoon himself), they would have had sex…so basically she was prime and prepared to be with Chuck, the transition from “it is real” to “I’m going with Bryce” is still too big to hang on the Beckman offer.

        Alex

      • True. It was a little silly how she went rogue and then everything is OK after Casey and Chuck come up with some BS cover story.

      • “BMB is right. The spy, action, comedy and Buy More fans seem to get exactly what they want. The romantics seem to get short changed.”

        Not me. I think there is lots of romance in the show. Romance is so much more than intimate relations.

      • stargazer, you mis understood my point a little I think.

        I don’t feel tat C&S have to make love as of yet in the show. All though, I do want that to happen, what I want & to this point have not gotten is a expressed admittance of feeelings for each other between the 2 of them & for them to begin being a “Real” couple.

        You’re right, they have had several romantic moments together in 2 seasons.

        I would just like There real feelings for each other to be expressed to one another & out in the open (At least to themselves.) instead of everything being implied, denied, hidden or repressed.

        I hope that clarifies my views.
        Thanks.

      • I see. Yeah, I agree. It has to happen soon, but that does’t mean that the relationship has to be all rainbows and butterflies. This is a complicated relationship,it always was. And that’s fun to me. I think it’s a big reason that keeps us watching..

      • after two years, it has to be Intimate relationship…otherwise its turning platonic, and who wants to see that.

      • Seriously, 2 years is not that long. At all.

      • I don’t know what else to tell you, two years are a lifetime when it comes to THAT…

      • I sure hope your kg!
        I still love the show too.

        I just am tired of the writers telling me that all of these episodes will be “Epic” & that I will like where they take things & be satisfied & then after viewing an episode, especially Colonel & Ring at the end of season & being left wanting.

        I just felt really short changed after Ring, with the very real possibility of Chuck going off the air & they did’nt even have Chuck & Sarah admit their love for each other to, to each other face to face.

        Maybe it was a little to much to ask for the 2 of them to make love in season 2 but not I think for them to express there “Real” feelings for each other!

        The season finale was not “Epic” last yr in many respects for me.
        It left me somewhat disappointed especially, with the uncertain future the show faced.

        Now, the writers r telling us to calm down, watch & see what happens & trust them yet again?

        I hope I can trust them.
        I hope they earn my trust with great all around episodes & I sure as Hell hope, that they get season 3 right!

        Thanks for the support kg LOL!

      • In the days before the The Ring I, too, felt the show was doomed. And as I watched I was looking for clues either way. I was back and forth. I think that was the writers’ intention.

        For example, Sarah telling Chuck she was leaving with Bryce to me was a death knell.

        Then of course, things looked a lot better when they danced at the reception. Steve Bart’s interruption threw another monkey wrench.

        Then I was convinced that we would get a season three when Bryce was shot and Chuck had to make his big decision. Once he downloaded Intersect 2.0 you had to know that was a green light.

        Of course, that decision although heroic, was going to present problems for Sarah.

  29. Here is what i posted on the official forums. I don’t see it being a huge thing and that this is being spun badly.

    Firstly I think we’ll find chuck and Sarah as a couple to start season 3. We know that chuck plans to be a superspy and sarah’s not keen on the idea but I don’t think it’ll be a deal breaker. Secondly I believe that Hannah is a ring agent and that Chuck flashes on that. They then bring in Shaw as the ring expert and he takes control of the team, and the plan is to use hannah to inflitrate the ring. He gets a thing for Sarah(I mean who wouldn’t) and decides to use Chuck to infiltrate which includes seducing her. However there could possibly be an ulterior motive there to try and break up c&s. Obviously this upsets Sarah cos chuck is becoming what she doesn’t want. A cold, ruthless spy. So Sarah then tries to turn him back to the normal chuck. However shaw and Sarah get in a life and death situation where shaw declares his feelings for Sarah. She doesn’t reciprocate and tells him so. The situation with hannah finishes and so shaw ships out too. Chuck realises what he was becoming(not sure how) and they move on from there.

    • This sounds….logical? I’m betting you’re close to correct.

    • Awesome Clyde. You’re a genius.

      Yvonne herself has admitted Sarah’s attraction to Chuck is based on his caring for others and his innocence. He’s lost some in and around the first two seasons. This new intersect download will certainly take more away and upset her.

      I mean this is all he talked about for two years. And then five minutes after his dad gets rid of it he uploads another one. Those times Sarah said you can have whatever or whomever you want to keep him focused on the mission, obviously she was talking about herself.

  30. Well, Mel! Mission accomplished! It had been pretty quiet around here for a while. Look at all the thought, discussion and time that went into the above. We are hooked; sinker, line and all. The buzz is up and crackling. Don’t you get the feeling that we are all pawns? If S/F et al are smart enough to keep this buzz going for a show that hasn’t aired a new episode for close to a year, don’t you think they’re smart enough to have the whole Season 3 be (dare I say it? ) AWESOME?

    In Ali we trust! I agree with you. The proof will be in the pudding.

  31. if ever hannah (kk) is a spy, that would be boring ‘cuz that scenario already happened with jill… and is jill commin’ back in the show?

    • I think we’ll be seeing many more spies “infiltrate” Chuck’s life because he is now going full-bore into the spy world.

      • I also think that we will see more spies and I think/hope the twist will be that Chuck is smarter now than last year with Jill, and doesn’t get fueled by a pretty face. It’s practically the Jill 2.0. scenario.

  32. It would be nice so, if we had at least one good spoiler about Charah…. at least one to give us hope

  33. I floated this on the NBC boards earlier today. I’m not sure if it’s been addressed here before, but:

    Chuck was originally supposed to have a female neighbor with whom he would have sexual tension. She was the owner of the club he took Sarah to in the Pilot. (This site had an article on her recently, and she was mentioned in the S1 blu-ray extras – but I can’t remember her name). According to the interviews on the blu-ray, JS & CF cut her character because they thought that two women pining for Chuck would be too much.

    The PLI/triangle storylines since seem to be contradictory to this original assessment. I’m curious as to why the change in tactics. Why not just keep the neighbor if PLIs and love -“insert geometric shape here”- were still going to be pursued. Puzzling and ironic . . .

    (Full Disclaimer: I am an unabashed shipper. I am optimistic that the Shaw/Hannah storylines will only give me a minor jolt. I expect C & S to be much closer by the end of S3, but a root canal without numbing sounds more appealing than repetitive PLI storylines)

  34. wow.
    seriously?
    i’m a little bored
    with all of the angst.
    but i love the show.
    so im hoping we’ll
    have some happier
    charah-esque moments.

    • I think most people are bored with the angst and stuff, especially since they seem to be playing it out the same way they did for the first two seasons. They would be stupid to do that so i think this new angst stuff will be different than before. How? I reall dont knowBut i think it will be the push that chuck and sarah need to realize they love each other and actually do something about it, and therefore thats when the two will finally become a real couple. There might be some moments that we dont like, but i can deal with that. Come on January,(I hope) u are coming way to slowly.

  35. ATTENTION Chuck fans,

    http://www.tvguide.com/PhotoGallery/Favorite-2009-1011839/16.aspx

  36. yeah, I think the love interests for sarah and chuck will just be to shake things up a little, and that charah will be stronger than ever! cant wait for season 3, then season 4, hen 5, 6, 7 and so on…

    • Lanneedakid,
      I totally agree! And I actually enjoy the will-they/won’t they aspects of the show. I have patience and I’m willing to enjoy the ride. I don’t think two years is too long for a “forbidden” relationship to develop at work. These situations have complications when you’re not running for your life, trying to save the free world, with a computer in your head…

      I’ll be with the show until the quality of the episodes really decreases, regardless of what happens to the leads’ relationship!

      • The thing is Cayraa, whether you enjoy the masochism of WT/WT or like C&S to be together,that What happens to the leads relationship(or to be more precise, what doesn’t happen…in this case) and the decrement in the quality of the episodes coincide most of the time.

  37. I really love Yvonne as sarah, I hope she ends up with chuck, and have kids and a happy family with him — spy and all! how’s that?!

  38. Agreed on that score! LOL!

  39. @Alex: “I don’t know what else to tell you, two years are a lifetime when it comes to THAT…”

    For you, not for everybody else. Not everybody is made the same way. 😉

  40. Well it looks like Routh’s episode total is up to eight now, so I would guess that he is going to be in at least two of the extra six episodes, unless they extended his role in the original thirteen. My consolation is that it must be due to his spy role and involvement/understanding of the Ring as no one could be dumb enough to have him there for eight episodes of romantic angst.

    • “as no one could be dumb enough to have him there for eight episodes of romantic angst.” – hopefully no one, that is.

  41. diehard chuck fans

    why my comments was deleted?

  42. At this point who really cares anyway? I think a lot of viewers over this long
    time period are just ” Chucked Out ” with all of the buzz,rumors,teases,buttons being pushed and chains being pulled. I, for one,
    am simply tired of it. Obviously many people are concerned where the show is
    going or not going, and there’s nothing wrong with that and its fun to read all of the different opinions expressed in this forum.

    However at some point we need to be laid back and just see what happens when
    the new episodes are aired. The viewers will decide things one way or another,
    so let the chips fall where they may. I would like to see Charah together and
    watch their relationship grow. But it’s made made quite clear by the producers
    this is not going to happen this year so why worry about it? If the show’s
    previous quality and charm is kept, given the ineptness of NBC’s current
    lineups of shows, it should get renewed for a 4th season provided it pulls a
    decent, minimal rating. Anything around 2.00-2.5 should do it given NBC’s
    current, weak overall ratings and they will need some good shows to build
    around next year. Chuck is one of those shows which is why 6 extra episodes
    were ordered without a ratings review by NBC. Gaspin is trying to figure out
    where to best place the show to best fit next years shows and keep it from
    being associated with Silverman’s mess. Hence the delay in announcing an official airtime if it comes back early.

    If it comes back early hopefully it will
    be placed in a good time slot for its best chance at survival for a 4th season.

    Nothing to do now except wait on NBC and see….

  43. The question is Robert, IF that is want you want to see(I would like to see Charah together and watch their relationship grow. But it’s made made quite clear by the producers this is not going to happen this year )why watch the show, if they don’t give you what you(and many many others) want ?
    That is why I understand all the nay Sayers, but I think it’s important to watch
    and then decide…sometimes the spoilers are nothing but trash, and nothing counts like personal experience and as you just said “The viewers will decide things one way or another”.
    So we need to wait, see and then decide.

    Alex

  44. I think that Chuck and Sarah should definelty get together but i hope it doesn’t follow the usual way and wait until the last episode they should do it the Bill Lawerence got J.D and Elliot together in scrubs. He did it in a non dramatic way and it paved the way for a really good season finale. Chuck is awesome i hope it manages to go on for a couple of more seasons can’t wait for season 3!

  45. I posted a comment last week which now seems to be missing. I’ve checked 3 times. What happened?

  46. Alex, you make a good point, but you also said we need to watch and see what
    happens, which is exactly what I’m going to do, wait and see…

  47. The back 6 ep should put Sara and Chuck together. The two show chemistry I have not seen for a long time. Now that Chuck is a spy, Sara should think of him as a good catch. They should become a secret couple living together and trying to dodge Cassey, It would be nice to see some love scenes in bed and not the half hearted attempt in vs the Colonel. If anything the jealousy between Chuck and Sara from any triangle should play out and they should be together.

  48. I find that the show lacks more Sara/Chuck romance

  49. I think the relationship between Sarah and Chuck can have obstacles without third parties envolved. Actually I think Sarah and Chuck being together would not hamper interest in the show at all. It would enhance the show with concentration on more of the comedy and drama. I sometimes think F&S must have felt unloved as children and this is the only way they know how to express themselves. I would think they would create situations that the audience wants to see not what they personally prefer. If I do not learn anything else from watching Chuck it will be to not become interested in any future shows F&S are envolved with—not if providing pain is the only way they can express themselves creatively.