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Comments on: Chris Fedak Talks Post-Finale Chuck & Sarah https://chucktv.net/2012/01/29/chris-fedak-talks-post-finale-chuck-sarah/ The CHUCK archive Tue, 16 Oct 2018 14:49:22 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.5.2 By: Derrick https://chucktv.net/2012/01/29/chris-fedak-talks-post-finale-chuck-sarah/comment-page-1/#comment-44557 Sun, 12 Feb 2012 02:16:15 +0000 http://chucktv.net/?p=12877#comment-44557 In reply to xenagi.

A great scenario for fan-fic. I think I’ll steal it from you. šŸ˜›

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By: IceTear1 https://chucktv.net/2012/01/29/chris-fedak-talks-post-finale-chuck-sarah/comment-page-1/#comment-44342 Sun, 05 Feb 2012 11:46:00 +0000 http://chucktv.net/?p=12877#comment-44342 In reply to jmc.

I agree. IĀ“m perfectly happy now with ending and believe that she is back in the end. But itĀ“s sad we couldnĀ“t see the real Sarah in the end properly. She definitively has the biggest character growth after all.

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By: IceTear1 https://chucktv.net/2012/01/29/chris-fedak-talks-post-finale-chuck-sarah/comment-page-1/#comment-44341 Sun, 05 Feb 2012 11:41:38 +0000 http://chucktv.net/?p=12877#comment-44341 In reply to Rob.

Rob: You rwally see it now a lot of like me. I have also thought that itĀ“s pretty much like that. And some of her real self is there all the time.

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By: Kerowyn https://chucktv.net/2012/01/29/chris-fedak-talks-post-finale-chuck-sarah/comment-page-1/#comment-44336 Sun, 05 Feb 2012 05:37:26 +0000 http://chucktv.net/?p=12877#comment-44336 In reply to Northwind.

Well said! Season 4 definitely had way more closure and much better storytelling. The pacing was just all wrong for Season 5. Frankly, I would have loved to explore the Sarah intersect wipe for the entire season. It would have been way more interesting and gotten the development it deserved. RIP Chuck.

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By: Northwind https://chucktv.net/2012/01/29/chris-fedak-talks-post-finale-chuck-sarah/comment-page-1/#comment-44333 Sun, 05 Feb 2012 02:46:32 +0000 http://chucktv.net/?p=12877#comment-44333 I have to agree with the sentiment someone else expressed — that if you have to explain a joke, perhaps it was not that funny to begin with or it is not that good of a joke. The same applies to the aspects of storytelling. if you have to explain the ending of a story, then something was wrong with the storytelling in the first place. I am referring, for clarity, to the Sarah memory-wipe aspects of this story.

What makes me even more disappointed is that these show-runners knew well in advance that this was the final season, and that they had 13 episodes to tell a series-wrapping set of episodes, and decided that this was what they would do. At the least, they could have put the Sarah-wipe story to the front half and dealt with it in a more comprehensive, sensible manner (sans Morgan-sect — sorry, that was a lousy idea, too, imho) or flipped the order to save Morgan after saving Sarah — or even ultimately saved them both and used the final episode as a full wrap-up. That would have allowed more time to make the story work and not leave this empty, incomplete, disappointing ending on the beach. Yes, hindsight is 20-20 and all that, but putting a significant change this late in the game on a show that is not coming back just was not smart, especially on a show that won’t be back in any video medium form (the ratings just don’t justify it, movie or television — sorry, but true).

I guess the season finale of season 4 is where the show ended for me, sans the Morgan-sect bit at the end of it. I probably won’t bother with getting the season 5 episodes even with the good moments for some of the other cast members.

Farewell, Chuck. I wish the parting had been more enjoyable.

Signing off

Northwind

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By: jmc https://chucktv.net/2012/01/29/chris-fedak-talks-post-finale-chuck-sarah/comment-page-1/#comment-44332 Sun, 05 Feb 2012 02:36:43 +0000 http://chucktv.net/?p=12877#comment-44332 In reply to Kerowyn.

Sarah changed more than any other character during the show, even more than Chuck did. Unfortunately that Sarah disappeared in “Bullet Train” and never came back.

Sure, Fedak says Sarah regained her memories and I believe that because other options are too painful to consider, but we actually needed to see that.

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By: Kerowyn https://chucktv.net/2012/01/29/chris-fedak-talks-post-finale-chuck-sarah/comment-page-1/#comment-44331 Sun, 05 Feb 2012 01:55:04 +0000 http://chucktv.net/?p=12877#comment-44331 I loved the finale right up until the ending, but not because Sarah and Chuck’s love was ambiguous. What bothered me was that I never got to see Sarah. Sarah as the character I’ve grown to love over the last five years. She was my favorite character and she wasn’t allowed to come back at all. I lost her, permanently, when her memory got erased.

The show wasn’t just about Chuck’s development. It was about Sarah too, and (as dramatic as it sounds) I mourned the loss of her character. Season1 Sarah was a good template, but she’s not our Sarah.

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By: GPagoda https://chucktv.net/2012/01/29/chris-fedak-talks-post-finale-chuck-sarah/comment-page-1/#comment-44279 Fri, 03 Feb 2012 23:53:24 +0000 http://chucktv.net/?p=12877#comment-44279 In reply to Michael J. Petty.

Dude…

Congrats! That’s exactly what they should have done. No need to show a house with white fences and toddlers running around 10 years from now or whatever. I think this clarifies the REAL issue: the Sarah at the end is not the Sarah from the series. She shows no emotions for Chuck, not a glimpse of love or remembrance. The simple, subtle adding of the sound of the intersect working and the “chuck, I love you” would mean she’s back, and that is SUCH a different feel from the original ending!

It’s funny that on every interview Yvone Strahovski gave since she knew how the ending was going to be she seems disappointed, and you could notice it even before watching the finale.

Hopefully they’ll give us an alternate ending at the DVD, or who knows, maybe a few alternate endings. We all know it’s fiction, but isn’t that what good fiction is all about, engaging us emotionally to the point we care about the characters as if they existed and were dear friends of ours?

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By: GPagoda https://chucktv.net/2012/01/29/chris-fedak-talks-post-finale-chuck-sarah/comment-page-1/#comment-44278 Fri, 03 Feb 2012 23:53:24 +0000 http://chucktv.net/?p=12877#comment-44278 In reply to Michael J. Petty.

Dude…

Congrats! That’s exactly what they should have done. No need to show a house with white fences and toddlers running around 10 years from now or whatever. I think this clarifies the REAL issue: the Sarah at the end is not the Sarah from the series. She shows no emotions for Chuck, not a glimpse of love or remembrance. The simple, subtle adding of the sound of the intersect working and the “chuck, I love you” would mean she’s back, and that is SUCH a different feel from the original ending!

It’s funny that on every interview Yvone Strahovski gave since she knew how the ending was going to be she seems disappointed, and you could notice it even before watching the finale.

Hopefully they’ll give us an alternate ending at the DVD, or who knows, maybe a few alternate endings. We all know it’s fiction, but isn’t that what good fiction is all about, engaging us emotionally to the point we care about the characters as if they existed and were dear friends of ours?

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By: Rob https://chucktv.net/2012/01/29/chris-fedak-talks-post-finale-chuck-sarah/comment-page-1/#comment-44224 Fri, 03 Feb 2012 00:21:01 +0000 http://chucktv.net/?p=12877#comment-44224 I must have watched the final scene at least 30 times. I’ve never been so emotional about a TV show. Ive also watched the whole 2 hours a few times, with many more to come.
Originally, I was disturbed by not only the ending, but the whole transformation of Sarah to a ruthless, cold hearted person. However, the more I watch it, the more I notice that things aren’t quite so clear. The real Sarah we have come to love is in there, as Fedak said.
A few examples:
1) In listening to Chuck and Elle from the top of the stairs, she seems bewildered T their apparent concern for her.
2) In the intersect room, when Chuck talks to her and approaches her, she actually let’s him lower her her arm holding the gun and put his other arm around her. It’s only when Quinn talks in her ear that she is snapped back into spy mode.
3) She doesn’t want to kill them, but is bypassed by Quinn.
4) When she returns to Quinn with the glasses, she punches him for blowing up a “government facility”. I suspect it had more to do with Chuck being killed, as far as she knew. she only changed her tune when she realized Chuck had tricked her. I think she now believed that Chuck played her feelings, and she felt betrayed.
5) in “their” house, when Chuck told her their history and his feelings, and then released her, she was clearly very affected. “This is real? You really love me?”
I think she was really shaken at that moment, but then she snapped back again and we see her expression and tone of voice change.
6) Towards the beginning of the fight, she screams at Chuck: “Why won’t you fight back?” She felt guilt for hurting someone who obviously cared for her. She wanted him to act like her enemy so she wouldn’t have to deal with her confused feelings. When she remembered carving their names, she was visibly shaken.
7) When he took a bullet for just as she found out Quinn had lied to her, she wanted to stay with him until he insisted she leave.
8) After saying goodbye in the courtyard, she returns to ask for his help on the computer. If she didn’t have mixed feelings, there’s no way she would have gotten any where near him. She could have figured out another way to get the intel. He offers to help on the mission. Against what appears to be her better judgement, she agrees. She knows he wants to be with her and she’s not totally discouraging him.
9) She says she’s disappearing for good because she can’t be the woman he remembers, she’s just a spy. She’s afraid to stay and deal with her conflicted feelings.
10) When they confront Quinn on the roof and Chuck tells her about Elle’s plan to restore her memory, she asks hopefully if it will work. When Chuck tells he has to use them instead to save everyone else, she nods in agreement.
11) After Beckmann leaves Castle, she no longer says she is leaving forever or that she won’t return to him. Just that she needs time alone to think.
12) on the beach, she engages Chuck and asks him it’s significance. She realizes when he finds her there that it must be important for them, and that she remembered something important to them both.
13) When Chuck tells her he needs her to know he’ll always be there for her, she clearly nods her head yes. At that moment she has accepted him back into her life.
14) He tells her to trust him, and she asks him for their story. She is ready to try to move towards him again. She does trust him.
15) As he tells her about them, we se her laughing and crying. I believe she is reliving those moments through Chuck. She feels comfortable and close to him again.
16) When he tells her Morgan’s idea, they both laugh, but as Chuck starts to make light of it, she tells him to kiss her. Not necessarily because she believes it will work, but because she is ready to come back to him. The memories, if they return, now or later, will be the icing on the cake. The most important thing to her now is that she trusts Chuck and wants to be with him again. She doesn’t need her memory back to know that. She just knows. She has fallen in love with him again without even knowing him.

This is my very long-winded take on everything. I hope this makes some of you feel better. I know I do now.

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