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The overnight ratings for “Chuck vs. the Final Exam” are in and they’re pretty much the same as last week’s numbers. Airing opposite the premiere of Dancing with the Stars (up over last spring’s debut), approximately 5.43 million viewers tuned in to see Chuck take his red test, with a 1.9 in the 18-49 demo. This compares to last week’s 5.78 million viewers and 1.9 in the demo.
What are the odds of NBC greenlighting a fourth season? TV By The Numbers has some thoughts.
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Of course, this is just the latest in what’s becoming a long line of Chuck fan victories.
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Oh man. I can’t say I was overly pleased with “Final Exam”, but I certainly don’t want to see Chuck go down the tubes.
Sad day.
This is really depressing, but I’m not surprised. I work hard at a stressful job. I enjoyed Chuck for Season 1 and much of Season 2 because it was a nice escape from reality. I tolerated the angst junk for the story to come. I bought subways, wrote letters, etc. (none of which I’ve ever done before). I got nervouse over the summer when I heard about the love quadrangle. I got more nervous when JS said he and the other showrunners cut their teeth and got their training and teen soaps. Unfortunately, the teen soap aspect of the this show has overtaken the rest of the story. The rest of the story is great and I mean really great. The problem is that the drama is so intense, it overshadows the fun and conflict elsewhere. I used to come home, have dinner, watch Chuck and have a pleasant Monday evening. Now, I watch Chuck, not to enjoy it, but in the desperate hope that it will turn the corner. More often than not, I DVR a couple of episodes and scramble through the angst crap to a better moment. I can’t be alone by looking at the ratings.
Also, TVBTN has a chart with Chuck’s ratings for the season. It started high and dropped to the 2.5 range (a decent number). It then started to slide (with some bumps) during First Class (the first real angsty love triangle episode of the season) and has been dropping since. I think the core 1.9 audience is left, but that is not going to get a renewal. I’ve never watched a JS show before, but I’ve heard a lot of people say he went to the well once too often in Season 3 of The OC, and even though it made it to Season 4, he’d wrecked the show by then. I think he’s done the same thing with Chuck.
Finally, and I apologize for the long post, JS chastised the fans after Fake Name saying that it’s his show and he and the writers know where they want to go. I agree. Unfortunately, just as he can run the show as he pleases, people can watch what they want. I hope he is as comfortable with the viewers’ choices as he is with his choices in show running.
I could not agree more!!!
They have taken a great show and have completely run it into the ground. He apparently done the same thing to OC as well. The show started out as funny and action packed with a little bit of romance/angst running in the background, now it is the exact opposite and you may get one or two good scenes before they go a make sure everyone knows that they main focus is on the whole will they wont they and as it keeps showing by the rating numbers people really do not care.
I totally agree – I’m so disappointed with this season. I LOVED the first two seasons and now it is just full of heavy angst. I like escapism TV. I had a hard day and would like a light, action packed smart and funny show to enjoy. I guess it is what it is. It was fun while it lasted.
Make it three that agree. I loved the show for the first two years, but Chuck isn’t any fun anymore. The more I hear about the season finale, the more I’m thinking there is no resolution to the Chuck/Sarah relationship. I am not a ‘shipper,’ but that was a good part of the fun. I’m getting discouraged. If the show does turn more fun before the end, it may already be too late. I wish they’d listened to the fan base at least a little. 🙁
make that the fourth person who agrees. The 9th and 10th episode gave me thos great sense of hope that season 3 is finally turning around, unfortunately i wasn’t that impressed with episode 11. The reason being it went wrong were every other episode that was on my ‘yuk’ list did, it was just to angsty with no pay off. For this whole season there has been some very heavy angst that has just made your mood worse instead of better, and to top it off there has been absolutley no real pay off. They made sure in the first and second season that once there was 1 or 2 episodes of heavy angst they rewarded the fans with a great chuck and sarah moment, i really don’t consider the date they had in this episode a great moment.
I guess the choice we have is to get behind the showrunners, who insist that they can do what they wish however wish, or let the show die.
You know what. Sadly (or maybe not sadly), viewers have decided they don’t like what the showrunners are producing.
The showrunners made their choice. We fans tried to warn them. Now the viewers have decided.
Such is life. But so long as the showrunners got what they wanted, well, tough luck for the great cast and tough luck for the dedicated viewers.
Well, i’ve said all along that the season 3 is poor.
I just hoped that viewers will stick by it if the show gets better but i was wrong like the showrunners.
Now we have to pray again that we will have a season 4 and that’s frustrating.
About the last episode : how can Sarah want to kiss Chuck in the beginning and in the end she says that she doesn’t love Chuck and says to Shaw that the day that she killed for the first time was her worst day and then she doesn’t answer to Chuck when he might need her help to get trough?
Thats another of big problems with this episode, has she ever thought what chuck was thinking? If you ‘were’ in love with someone you would want to know the whole truth and the persons feeling before running of to the next man in line and say i’m not in love with him anymore.
Also why is she so mad at chuck, she has killed probably a countless amount of times and is now judging chuck for killing someone (which of course he didn’t), am i the only one who found that strange?
Kind of, but not really.
I do not think that Sarah was mad at Chuck, I took the moment at the as her being mad at herself. Because Chuck would not have been in that situation if it wasnt for her. Yes, she has killed countless times, but she fell for the nice guy, who at the beginning never wanted to shoot a gun and now because of her he wants to be that spy. Its heartbreaking for her, and she wants to feel that connection with Shaw, that she felt with Chuck at the beginning, but she cant. Thats why I think she is opening up so much to Shaw.
Another big plot in the storyline is that she no longer is in love with chuck because he became a spy by killing someone(which is what everone else including her had to do), bbut yet she can be with a guy with shaw who has absolutly no emotions……..doesnt exactly make sense does it, and i really don’t see hwo someone can argue that point
It does seem like a double standard on her part, but IMO she is upset because she never wanted Chuck to have to kill anyone. She is obviously still traumatized by her red test, and the show has never made it seem easy for Sarah to kill anyone. I think she wanted to spare Chuck the feeling of having taken a life and, in her mind, him doing so means he’s turned a corner and is no longer the Chuck she loved.
I was expecting some light drama mixed with comedy in season 3,just like how I’ve always enjoyed the last 2 seasons. So far this season disappoints me. Greatly. They expect us to keep faith after seeing the first 11eps?
Introducing Shaw was a mistake. They have enough cast to make the show work already. Heck I wished Bryce was back from the dead to join season 3 instead of him. At least his character was believable and fun to watch.
Another point the producers should think about is that chuck is a comedy. It’s supposed to be fun to watch. Not only is the storyline too dark this season, it wasnt enjoyable to watch and I feel like I dont know the main characters anymore. Esp Sarah.
I was a die hard fan for CHUCK’s season 1 and 2. note the key word is “was”. I still watch the show, but after every episode my face is like :/ and it should’ve been :D.
I’m just hoping this season will end soon. I want the show to go back to what it was in season 2 IF they get a 4th season.
It’s hard to blame DST when a show in your timeslot had 22.6 million viewers. I think that it’s time to admit that wt/wt fatigue is a serious issue. The frustrating thing is that they could fix this… easily. Release one positive spoiler. Give one positive interview. Instead CF does the opposite.
It’s almost like they are intentionally trying to depress people.
While I don’t totally disagree with you on the wt/wt being tiresome, you can’t discount DST and DWTS debuting.
How do you explain Chuck and House last week falling 17%?
How do you explain CBS losing 2 million viewers and 0.5 in the demo?
DWTS got the same ratings (well, higher this year) as lat year when they debuted after DST. So DWTS getting those numbers are not surprising. And remember, it’s a premiere when ratings are always inflated.
Yeah,
I think (like all disagreements between reasonable people) the truth lies somewhere in the middle.
Certainly, I’ll not deny that DST is a factor. It clearly is.
The highly anticipated debut of DWTS was also a huge factor.
But that is the environment that the show has to compete in. It has to go against DWTS, House, and HIMYM.
And, I agree, the impact of fatique (even if we agree that it exists) can’t be quantified.
But I have spent my morning visiting many places where Chuck fans gather… and the experiences have been similar. People are not angry. That would be okay. They would still watch. They are depressed. And that’s going to take a lot (IMO) to turn around. Not impossible. But a lot.
You make good points. I totally understand the frustration some fans have with TPTB. However, what I take issue with, and this is not directed at you, is that some (if not many) are solely pointing the finger at Schwedak for the ratings loses. Have they made some mistakes? Of course. They took chances and it didn’t work. It doesn’t matter how much hatred some people have for him, but putting all the blame on TPTB for Chuck’s ratings decline is extremely unfair IMO.
I don’t think that we really disagree. We’re just saying similar things, in dissimilar ways and with different intensity.
You’re willing to give Schwedak a lot more benefit of the doubt than I am. And that’s a perfectly fine pov. I understand your points and they have validity.
My pov is that the buck stops here. Schwedak is responsible for producing the show. Just like they said the other day in response to Sepinwal. They are going to tell the story that they are going to tell. Fine. But that means accepting the consequences. And we have been discussing the danger in the PLI storyline since ComicCom. For them to claim surprise at the fatigue stuns me. Didn’t they read the reaction to Mo Ryan’s article in July? That smacks of tone deafness, at best. And in your face, at worst. They knew that it was a distinct possibility. Because they addressed it before the season started. They promised that we wouldn’t feel fatigue. Well, I would submit that, as a fandom, we do.
And let’s be clear. I’m not fatigued. I’m close. But I still expect great things in the next couple of weeks. I’m not fatigued. But I can completely sympathies with my friends who so obviously are.
They keep promising or insisting to keep the faith because they are trying to tell the most satisifying story possible. Well that hasn’t certainly hasn’t happened….not one bit. They just want you to watch the show.
In my opinion, Schwedek totally missed the mark in keeping the show’s mojo this season. The storyline so far has been very unbalenced and there were a lot of out-of-character moments especially for Chuck and Sarah. Shaw is leaving me really bored and has been wasting up time for a potental better storyline. Quite honesty, they’ve nearly dimmished my anticipation for what they’ve promised would be an “epic” finale.
Believe it or not, I’m not as nearly eager for Chuck and Sarah to come to a resolution as I was in the begining of the season. The love triangle/angst would have been OK for a couple of episodes but extending it through nearly the whole original 13 order is such b***s**t. I think that if they were to get together now after all the hell that has happened, then it wouldn’t be very thrilling. This the story so far is begining to make me think Chuck and Sarah don’t deserve each other.
My conclusion: They are making me FATIGUED and pretty close to INDIFFERENT.
Well for me, I would compare it to I would rather the show die than for it to suffer more than it already has. It is sort of like a old dog that you have had for years and suddenly becomes very ill, you can either be selfish and try to keep him or her alive and make them live out in misery or you can do the right thing and have them put to sleep and keep them alive in your memories and know they are no longer suffering.
I guess what I am saying is that if it comes down to it, I will not be writing no letters this year and if I do it will be asking them to please take the show off before it can be damaged more than what it already has.
I really don’t think a spoiler would do much good here though. The more casual fans who make up a significant portion of Chuck’s audience are unlikely to seek them out and if they do read them it will be by accident. But that spoiler might get the hard core fans talking and promoting the show again which of course is great! But my view is that the only way for them to address this is to actually do.
I concur with Kate’s post further down, it’s obvious that while trying to tell a fantastic story about Chuck’s transition (descent?) into the spy world and the impact it has on those around him they lost sight of the “balance” with which they told the story in seasons 1/2 as well as to some extent who thier characters are, especially Sarah.
In the end it appears the statement of the back 6 being a mini-season is getting to be *really* accurate, and the spoilers thus far indicate some attempt to restore that.
At this moment, Chuck’s numbers in the apparently all-important demo are at an average of 2.466666 to infinity and beyond for the season. The bad news is that two weeks ago that was about a 2.58 in the demo. That’s over a 0.1 drop that Chuck can’t afford in a very short time. Except for one little blip (vs. Fake Name and a slightly elevated vs Beard) and one small plateau (vs Operation Awesome, vs First Class) the numbers have been trending downward. At least it’s not an avalanche.
Chuck still could be renewed if the 2.46666 can stabilize, but I agree with the article in TV By The Numbers. If it comes back at this point, it may be simply to fill a space until something else can be brought in to take over.
Events like the “Chuck-pocalypse” over Chuck/Sarah/Shaw/Hannah (and the public, sharp reaction to it) will play a role in that decision as well. Would Subway stay on board, for example, or was the controversy (or overreaction, my opinion) enough to make them think twice? Or, more importantly, what are the decision-makers who fill the schedules thinking? These will all be factors on this bubble show if the fan base is perceived to be diminished in size and/or unreliable in its dedication to the show. NBC gave it one chance already with the season 3 renewal in the hopes of seeing improvement in the ratings and, so far, the numbers are not there. Again, TV by the Numbers is probably correct in that another fan campaign won’t be nearly as much of a help this time.
I’m sticking with what I said in an earlier ratings post. The Monday after Easter, Chuck vs The Other Guy… if numbers have not significantly turned around by then, then the odds are renewal will be dicey. Time will tell. Apologies for the long post.
Actually, correction in my post. Sepinwall, referenced in TV By The Numbers, mentioned the renewal-as-cannon-fodder-until-replacement-arrives possibility. Credit where is credit is due, my bad. 🙂
so sad this is by best t.v show,,,but now it’s totally torn apart….if Brandon Routh would come across this news about ratings i wonder what he would feel……so disappointing to hear one man destroying a whole show……by the way thumbs-up for the show runners for staining this awesome show……i feel really sorry for the characters like chuck, Casey, Morgan Ellie and Awesome….there acting is great but ratings are going down week by week………
C/F said to all the fans in an interview
“CF: What’s important for us is, don’t close the book yet. We’ve got some amazing stuff coming up.”…sorry sir we didn’t see anything like that yet, i hope he was not talking about somethings that gonna happen after original 13 epis are over.,,,,,,,,,,i suppose everything will not end up like an fairy tale.
The PROBLEM IS THAT THERE ARE BOOKS THAT ARE BAD TO THE BEGINNING, TO THE HALF AND ALSO ULTIMATELY. I DO NOT DEAL AS DID NOT FOLLOW(CONTINUE) THE LINE OF THE SEASONS 1 and 2 THAT WENT(WERE) VERY GOOD.
This is really disappointing. Can anyone think of a real reason why NBC would renew Chuck? I’d like to hear something from someone that actually gives me some hope. 🙁
Well, I think that Sepinwal said it best. They really don’t have anything better.
Well, I’m going to try to stay somewhat positive. Naivete can be fun sometimes. Last week we had DST…this week we had the monstrous premier of DWTS…next week…? I don’t know that NBC will make a renew/cancel decision in the immediate future, so Chuck’s prospects could improve if it sees the sunnier side of 2.0 again. This may happen if they finally end this rediculous, drawn-out C/S subplot. That’s assuming the departed viewers are aware that the C/S drama has ended.
I don’t know why people keep blaming BR and Shaw for this show’s decline. He’s just a guest star…albeit a persistent one. The real problem with the show is the marginalization of the Sarah character. Where did our favortite super-sexy super-spy go?
In last night’s episode, I for the first time, did not like Sarah. I’ve always loved Sarah as well as all the core characters but you are so right–her character has been marginalized. I don’t know if that is explaining the ratings drop, but I hope the ratings will improve enough for ‘CHUCK’ to be renewed. I’m still a fan of the show, and it’s been fun to see the development in other aspects of the show, esp. the relationship between Chuck & Casey.
What super-sexy-spy?
If somebody watched only season 3 he will not notice Sarah. 🙁
Guess she was more hot when she “dated” Chuck…now she’s just some average blonde.
i noticed that aswell, her charcters attractivness and appeal has been greatly diminished in my opinion.
i still think she is good looking, but yes i agree she isnt as attractive as before, seems a bit to superficial
The frustrating part of this is that it is so unneccessary. Assuming fatigue is an issue (and I think that it is), it need not be. Tthere are flashing neon signs that say that the people who are complaining are about to get what they want. This isn’t a spoiler area, so I’m being careful — but it’s clear. You are going to get what you want. Soon.
I’m just stunned that TPTB seem to be so completely tone deaf. Did they actually think that the majority of the base would like this? And maybe they’re right and I’m wrong. But wow, I dodn’t think so, lol.
The problem is as everyone always says it’s the journey not the destination.
And regardless of shipper status, the journey has been boring, because we’ve seen these plots before.
Chuck and Sarah are going to talk! But they’re interrupted! Now something angsty happens! Seeing that seemingly every episode when they’ve already done that plot 6 or 7 times in the first two seasons isn’t interesting.
Also i have to say its got to the point that i am beyond caring if they get together sarah is not that woman any more. She is badly damaged not the cool sexy spy, she has been very cruel to chuck this episode as well, she ran away when he had no choices. The viewing figures are slowly dropping and by the time they are together which will happen it will mean nothing any more. They are not holding they are dropping even after all this week we have seen people saying watch live. Well it would have been realistic if sarah had been playing shaw. Also I really hate that chuck yet again has to chase after her. Really chuck have some self respect.
All the reasons in the world do not matter they have ruined the core of the show this year and people are walking away because as you say the journey has not been fun. That is why the viewership numbers are down.
absolutely, “Also I really hate that chuck yet again has to chase after her. Really chuck have some self respect.”………
the writers have totally destroyed this character,if sarah doesn’t like to be with chuck, i don’t think he should be a guy who should chase after this rude woman,,,,,,,anyway i don’t like Yvonne{Sarah walker} character anymore.i suppose the ratings could increase if Shara would leave the show and open the door to Hannah.
anyway,,,,,,please writers we don’t mind if you’ll destroy sarah’s character and remove her from the show,,,,but don’t let that happen to chuck……
i suppose chuck has a good personality so when he always goes behind Sarah knowing that she has feeling for Shaw and she badly needed to be with her, why do you’ll want to make chuck a third party guy going in-between another couple and bring pain to them,,,,,,,,
by the way in the epi 3*10 Casey told chuck that Sarah is a good woman,,,,,,,that’s just crap,,,she is unfaithful women,,,how could she possibly try to kiss chuck when she is going out with Shaw.inside the castle too she lied to Shaw i don’t think boss(Shaw) should trust this woman.
chuckonly:Chuck has to chase after Sarah because he is the one who caused the problem.Sarah knew becoming a spy would change him and wanted him to run away with her.He got a big ego from having the intersect 2.0 and desided he whould rather be a spy and broke her heart when he deserted her at the train station.Only after he fails does he try to fix things with her and not very hard.Because when the first cute brunette shows an interest in him he goes after her and forgets about being with Sarah.He thinks first not with his heart or his brain,but with a lower part of his anatomy and when he finally thinks from the right area he has already broken hann ah’s heart by sleeping with her and then breaking up with her(when he is meeting her parents no less),And of course Sarah’s again by going after Hannah in the first place.Sarah would never had gone after Shaw if Chuck had’nt done what he did.Chuck is the character for me who has gone down in my opinion.Hopefully now he will man up to Sarah not only about Prauge but also about His mistake with going after Hannah.
I’m so bummed to see this decline–I don’t understand.’CHUCK’ is better on it’s worst day than most shows are on their best day. I want to remain optimistic like Alan Sepinwall, & still hope for a renewal for a 4th season. Am I in dreamland?? I have some of the most vivid dreams sometimes…..
Well the writing was on the wall unfortunately, i’m not really suprised. The writers knew these love triangles were boring and you don’t bite the hand that feeds you, they did and now have to face the concequences along with the hardcore viewers. Real shame for such a great show. Half the people who write fan fiction can do a better job.
As I said earlier, the directors and the writers being influence by the teenager tv series like OC & gossip girls which are now down the drain. Chuck is a matured spy comedy drama. Too bad they write what they wants, They forgot that Chuck season 3 is brought back on air because of the strong fans.. The fans work hard , spend their time and money to bring back Chuck. In the end, the fans was frustrated with the directors and the writers. Too bad .. the casts are good but the story below the fans expectations.
It’s hard to be positive when the show concept i am attached to is in seasons 1 and 2. It was even more difficult this year because in 3.01 and 3.02 i became “shell shocked”. With that being said, I find that the new facets to the characters to be very intriguing. My own personal angst over the WTWT is long over because it seems that this is the most likely path of progression towards the endgame, which, is C/S reunited as a couple/professional partnership (Hopefully).
There are still 8 more installments of the story this season, and I am excited to see what happens next.
Thank you! My sentiments exactly.
I’m not completely happy with this season. I don’t think any fans are, but come on, people. Don’t give up now. I know we all hate the angst and it has been dragged out way too long and handled in a very sophomoric and soap opera-y way – but…
Even without spoilers, you can tell by the way the story is moving that the angst will soon be over. And probably in just 2 more episodes! Just hang in there a little longer.
I’m not making excuses for the season. I agree that the characters have been done a disservice and that the writing has been sub-par, but we should all be able to see the light at the end of the tunnel here. I am optimistic, and not without good reason.
But if we give up now – if we stop watching and stop spreading the word, Chuck may very well go away for good, and on a down note.
Let’s give it a little more time to redeem itself.
sorry wrong we now have confirmation shaw is in in 3.19 so its possible hes around after 3.13 so the so called pay off is a false dawn. WE will be all disapointed, sarah will choose shaw. Fedek said that in a recent interview they would have a significant relationship.
I don’t understand most people… ok I agree it takes a lot of time before having what we want. But I can’t believe that (almost) nobody noticed that we are almost there! I’m pretty sure of one thing: two more episodes and the Will they/won’t they thing will be over and for good (juste in case you haven’t notice, episode 14th title is Chuck versus the honeymooners! I think it’s pretty clear what it means… ok surely not a wedding but at least a relationship). So enjoy the ride and stay tunes, because I really think that the rest of the season will be Awesome!
Well said i was so negative before i watched this because of everyone but i think its a major over reaction. The only reason sarah says she doesn’t love him is just a reaction to what she thinks she saw and unlike sarah chuck can say how he feels. I don’t think chuck is going to admit killing to save casey because thats the person he is, maybe casey admits it in the next ep who knows! We are so close people just need to have a bit of faith!
Exactly. I may not like how it was all handled (rushed and pretty big swings in actions and emotions) but I DO like where it is going.
And we will be there soon.
Man – I’m so glad to see that not everybody is flipping a nut today. Some other sites have been getting me down.
I’m doubtful the rest of the season will be awesome. Fedak say there will be a strong relationship between shaw and sarah and shaw present will be extended.
Maybe NBC should consider moving Chuck to another night. Don’t they already know by now that chuck can’t hold up on Mondays very well.
Yeah that is what I was thinking. If DWTS really did kill the chuck ratings, why not switch season 4 to a night where competition is weaker? Especially if that 1.9 are the true fans, you know they will follow it whatever day it is. Then you’ll have a really good show possibly being top for their time slot across all netowrks. NBC would be good, and it would appease the fans. Where that would fit it would be anybody’s guess.
CityTV has been showing it at 10 PM since the Olympics. I wonder how the Canadian ratings are comparing to the Sunday timeslot it had before the Olympics, and to the 8pm timeslot it had last season. If it’s doing better at 10pm north of the border, NBC might take notice and consider that as a possibility.
I wish they’d just move it to Fridays at 8. Surely it’s safe there. I have no idea what’s on any of the networks at that time on Fridays but if Chuck were on then I’d be well aware of it and make it a point to watch before whatever plans I had.
It may not be wise to move it at this late date. People may panic/forgot it moved and miss it. If it gets a 4th season, then maybe look at another night for it. For now, though, Monday is probably locked in the rest of the way.
I just want to say that as far as I am concerned one negative for this season has overpowered all the positives. The bad choice to extend and pretend the love triangle is really hurting what has otherwise been great acting, great action, and some pretty slick comedy. The love triangle was OK for a couple of episodes…but all this, and what is yet to come (ouch). Also, the comments from Fedak to TV Guide add to my very negative outlook on fixing this (http://www.tvguide.com/News/Chuck-Producer-Chuck-1016515.aspx).
Unfortunately, shooting is mostly wrapped up so any type of recovery will depend on the writer’s wit and not our input. I hope they can get it together and fix it. BTW: NBC decided to bring Chuck back during the hiatus…so I think the moment of truth (decision) is a ways off. I just refuse to follow this show blindly. If they don’t improve soon, I doubt very much that a depressed fan base will mobilize.
Maybe NBC should move Chuck to a different timeslot. It’s getting it’s ass kicked. NBC should have moved it awhile ago and let’s face it, Chuck can’t compete with the other strong and established shows. There is no hope if Chuck keeps getting below 2.0. If NBC wants to see more viewers for it, then they should try moving it and see what happens.
I agree, they can’t expect it to compete with the stupid reality shows. Move it to Wednesdays, there is nothing on that night.
Never going to happen. It’s on Mondays and will stay on Mondays until it’s cancelled (looking likely). Its only hope is a major rebound next week, and by major, I mean that it has to be a 2.3 or above. It’s a business and NBC wants/needs to make money. Moving stuff around on a schedule may make sense early in a show’s run, but not now, and a fan “wanting it badly” means nothing to a network. Also, I don’t think moving it will do any good. The problem is that .6 of the demo (assuming 2.5 was a sustainable number) have decided that the show is not worth watching (at least not worth watching live). Perhaps last week it was because they were too busy enjoying the sun later in the evening, and last night they wanted to see people dance. Ultimately, it doesn’t matter. And, because the writers have serialized the show so much, it’s going to be very, very difficult to get that .6 back. Now, the one hope (and it’s a long shot, a really long shot) is that the DVR numbers are high. Note, the Live +7 day numbers are near meaningless to renewal (complaining that they should be doesn’t matter), but perhaps those folks will decide that next week is their week to watch the show live. If so, and if it jumps to a 2.3 or more, then it has a chance. If it’s a 1.9 again, then it’s over. Hopefully, it’s cancelled soon there after so we can quit worrying and this remarkable cast has time to find work for next year.
Just finished watching the ep and i really do think they did it well. Sarah is a fool i can’t get passed that she’s either blind or stupid. The only reason chuck considers shooting that guy is because he thinks its the only way they can be together heck i have a hunch thats one of the reasons he became a spy. The buymore was classic! Just stay with me a second… That “worst day” is such an important scene. Think of the backgrounds sarah doesn’t trust anyone so she flinches and shoots that woman who i am really sad to say i think is chucks mother. Chuck isn’t in the same position so he doesn’t get suprised. The writers potrayed in tha scene that sarah is perfect for chuck and not shaw. Shaw is using chuck for his own goals and suing sarah to control chuck i don’t think shaw is over his wife maybe she is still alive. Sarah could have solved all her problems by saying “chuck there is no problem being that guy because its the one i want” but then that wouldn’t drag WTWT out for another season. Chuck didn’t shoot that guy and i am so glad because his character really has been done fantastically and with becoming a spy he is becoming more confident. The way chuck is we know he cannot kill and so he won’t become a spy. Great ep i have to disagree with the majority here.
This show is done….. As someone posted here earlier that bit the hand that feeds them one to many times…… Sad to say that I am sorta pulling for it to be cancelled so that TPTB do not ruin it worse than what they already have, I for one will remember Chuck as a great 2 season show. The 3rd season will not exist to me. Please reply to my post if you agree.
Thanks.
RIP Chuck.
I will reply because I disagree entirely. Chuck season 3 may not be the show you personally were looking for but hoping to get it cancelled is no solution either. Chuck is a one of a kind show and no other show will ever replicate what made it so great to the extent that Chuck did. Season 3 is darker and more mature and really opens up the characters more than seasons prior. There is nothing wrong with that.
i agree with TB, nothing wrong with a darker season. It can’t always be sunshine and lollipops, you know?
I agree with teddy AND TB. Haha. I am not having any problems with this season. Enjoying it. Think it’s been great, though different. Shaw is a twerp and Chuck will hopefully dust him off his shoulder soon but if not then I’ll still hang out as long as the show does to see what happens. Love it more than any show on TV and possibly…Ever? I don’t want to see it cancelled and think that’s just a terrible thing to wish for. Fans…So strange.
Yes I agree.
From what i have heard they plan to do a reset if they get a season 4. Who knows what they intend to reset who knows. Chuck and Sarah again if they are alive as it seems the season end is going to destroy the cast.
So yes lets end this now so we have some fond memories left.
Real Shame or should that be SHAM
What’s interesting to me is that people are not as mad as they were after Fake Name. Now, they’re just depressed and resigned to the end. That’s how I am. I’m hoping that the back 6 of the season capture some of the fun of the first 2 seasons without the angst crap; even if C/S are not together. Oh, and I’ll never watch a new JS/CF show again. I’ve heard too much about how they killed the OC and have seen it first hand here. Given that fact, and I suspect others feel the same, JS’s new production company is aptly named “Fake Empire” because I suspect it will be just that.
OMG, this is really pissing me off. Since when do people just stop watching a show for it trying to have a continuing storyline? This is to the point of ridiculious in how much the numbers have dropped. Chuck vs The Beard was everything a Chuck fan could ask for and more. Now to weeks later the numbers have dropped severly since that episode. WTH happened? idk what the show can do since the episodes have been completed already and I don’t think the show is doing anything wrong. NBC may need to step it up in the advertising department again to regain some viewers.
I don’t think that will do any good now. We are more than half way done with this crappy season and promotion for this show only worked in the very begining of the season. We are losing regular viewers and that is a growing problem.
I think it’s up to this ratio – Bad Storyline : Bad Timeslot = Ratings down
I agree, I myself have actually called many people that I recommended this show to and apologized for season 3 and told them they should stop watching it…. Yes, some of them are members of the Nelson Ratings.
Wow. What a slap in the face to Chuck fans.
I’m really sorry you feel that way Mel, but to me the “slap in the face to Chuck fans” was from the writers of the show and how they have so far written season 3.
For me, a single dad raising an 19 month old daughter I took 1 hour a week for myself and that hour was devoted to Chuck because it made me laugh and feel good and prepared me for the week. Now, not so much.
I could go on in detail on how hard I worked trying to get Chuck back for the 3rd season(probably more than most, I even took out ads in News papers and on the internet for members of the Nelson Family to contact me) and felt over joyed when it was brought back. What is the thanks that I get? No comedy, light action, and a day time soap where the switch lovers or emotions quicker than it takes to make a pitcher of grape Kool-Aid….
I have enjoyed getting to know many people because of this show and that I will always be thankful for.
To quote John McEnroe “You cannot be serious!” Jesus. This is WHY $#!+ like Jay Leno and DWTS and American Idol succeeds. I hate people. I really and truly do.
I really don’t understand how people can be suprised with the reaction a vast majority of the fans are having over season 3, in my opinion a good 6 out of the 11 episode have been sub-power, and i disagree that chuck on its worst day is better than most other shows, i personally find HIMYM to be a very funny show, i just choose to watch chuck because i hope that it will return to what it used to be in season 1 and 2. Unfortuanatly it hasnt!
I’m really curious as to whether or not Trauma is effecting the ratings. I mean that show is just a ratings black hole. The reason why I think that it may have an effect is that I really never see commercials for Chuck, but I do occasionally see commercials for the Monday night line up, which include snippets from Chuck, Trauma, and Law&Order…which to be honest is not a very compelling line-up. I also suspect that the ratings drop really is due to external factors like DST and the Dancing show premiere, I have a feeling that when the live+7 numbers come out they will still be near a 3. If those numbers drop significantly as well, then I would be more concerned that the ratings drop is due to the story line and not external factors. I really just can’t see dropping such a large number of fans this late into the season…those kind of drop offs seem to happen after premiers, not once the show has stabilized, to blame the story just doesn’t make since. Especially after a series of episodes that were so highly regarded.
Who regarded these last episodes so highly? No one that I know of, check around on all the Chuck sites the majority(70%+) are really not liking it. Check on Fan Fiction on the Chuck boards, same there. The ONLY reason the numbers have dropped like they have is because of the direction that moved the story line. I have been a fan from the get go, ask around on this forum, they all know me.
The majority of the people posting about the last few episodes have really liked them. There are 1 or 2 really vocal people who complain endlessly about the direction of the show, but overall if you look at what people have had to say about the last three episodes the overall feel has been pretty positive. Do you really think that the vast majority of people didn’t like vs. the beard? So many that the ratings would drop from a 2.4 to a 1.9? If the drop was going to happen do to fan discontent alone it would have after vs. the mask, but it didn’t. I think that a few very vocal people are a little frustrated with one aspect of the show and are constantly voicing their opinions, but they do not make up the majority of the fandom. I love this season. I actually like this season more than I liked the first season. I’m not a fan of the romantic angst, but I absolutely love where the show is going right now, and I can’t wait for next week’s episode.
Really? just on this discussion topic I have counted about 8 that have not given it great reviews…….
And another 8 who have given good reviews.
still thats half that don’t, thats not very healthy for a show like chuck which is on the ‘bubble’
i agreed with you rstacy, Chuck season 3 is sickening. The story line is not like season 1 and 2 . It is more like teenager tv series like oc and gossip girls. Chuck supposed to be matured spy comedy tv series. Not entertaining anymore watching Chuck. Good cast but v poor writers.
What is up with “mature”?????? Chuck isn’t and never was a mature show that I can recall. The whole idea is based on immaturity. To me, it’s a goofy romantic comedy with action sprinkled in. With the spy stuff as the backdrop instead of a coffee shop or detective agency or whatever.
I am blaming Chris Fedak for this disaster. Back in Comi-con a couple of years ago Josh Schwartz told a story of how Chris wanted to produce a dark show, well I think Josh stepped out on Chuck and Let Chris have his dark show.
it is no longer a show that should be on at 8:00 but 10:00 People who liked the show in the beginning are now watching something that makes them feel good after the show, and not something that is disturbing. Week after week I have been watching the show hoping that the dark would turn to light, It has been 10 weeks now and it is still a dark show. I must admit that I thought that it was turning around at Chuck vs the beard but went back to bad when Casey was dismissed at Chuck VS the Tic Tac, then was the Final Exam the darkest episode yet. Chris Fedak should be tortured for turning this light feel good show into a Dark show that will be canceled. Good Job Chris.
I agree, I would also like to propose that we as True Chuck fans no longer acknowledge this season 3 as part of the Chuck series….I know personally I will not be, to me Chuck had 2 great seasons and then disappeared.
Others on here have their own opinion and can say all the things about almost to the good points or whatever it may be, but the fact remains is that this show has been destroyed by the very people that created it because they thought they were better than the fans that have supported this show from the start, well guess they were wrong and the numbers prove it as these are some of the worst numbers they have ever gotten.
I think everyone is being a bit ridiculous. The show is taking a more serious tone for character development. Yes, its not the same as before but some of these epsiodes, especially the last two, have looked into the charcters emotions and back stories. I think that will help the show move forward. Giving it a story line for later and at the same time start moving back to the Chuck we all fell in love with during season 1 and 2.
I couldn’t agree more!!! People need to relax, and wait and see how it turns out. Any time you’re telling a story, you don’t keep it cheerful the whole time–you need to throw some dark, down moments in to make the ultimate positive resolution of a story more satisfying. And if you want the show to continue to a fourth season to make sure that a story you feel more satisfied with gets told, keep watching the show and encourage others to do the same!!
I only support Chuck for season 4 if they change the directors and the writers. Choose that meet the market wants but not what they wants. Otherwise, NBC should cancel the show now before it turning worst.
Empire Strikes Back anyone? Was that not the best Star Wars of them all??? Dark, dark, dark…
I 1000% agree with this statement and anyone who thinks that this season is not as good as the others needs to reevaluate their dedication to the this show.
I’m holding out hope and say NBC will renew chuck for a 4th season. I believe it is still NBC’s number 1 scripted show. I must say there are times where i wanted to scream at my tv set but I’m really enjoying the story line. I know some fans are really hating the shaw character therefore have decided to stop watching, which i don’t understood. I say people should finish off the season… there is still 8 more episodes… anything can happen!!!!
Nothing good will happen. Fidak say there will be strong relationship between shaw and sarah. And shaw present will be extended beyong 3.13. Maybe to season 3 finale.
I think it could get better after Shaw leaves and if they leave the angst alone for a bit. Or mybe even go with a lighter tone and Chuck not beign surronded by all these horrible things becauser theres no way if they go darker that hes gonna be the same guy so they need to have moments where it shows how good people can be. I hope they renew it but if not eh.
Despite the disappointments this season I still remain hopeful that at some point things will turn in a more hopeful direction. One would think that Fedak and Schwartz would realize that the continued half-reveal spoilers that they try to entice viewers with are not working. Without giving away the rest of the season they need more video promos and other positive news, including promotion by the cast that will keep loyal fans excited about the future.
I remember Josh Gomez during season 1 or 2 comparing Chuck to the “A-Team”. In other words a fun, sometimes romantic, action-packed show that you don’t take too seriously. Sure the main characters would get in trouble, sometimes even hurt, but you knew they would come out alright in the end and would be back the next week ready for more action.
That’s what I miss about Chuck. I definitely like seeing the character development but I also want more of the fun, romance and action. There is already enough depressing news around the world that I don’t need the same with Chuck.
That is exactly what the mood for Chuck be. Like “The A-Team” only with a few deaths.
What was Schwedek expecting? They pulled the angst string for way to long. They should have known that the loyal fans were used to the light hearted vibe of the show. I understand that angst is generally part of TV shows but Schwedek blew it way out of preportion. I watch it because it was always fun but now I feel more depressed after each episode. The dark storyline is overshadowing the fun stuff. People want to actually tolerate a show without going into long arcs of depression.
You season three haters make me sick. You talk about telling your friends to stop watching the show, and how we should just disregard season three. Why? Because there is no Chuck & Sarah? Because it is dark? That is ridiculous. If you want to see what a “dark” show is, watch 24 or Fringe or anything like that.
Zach L. does a great job making the Chuck character a dorky spy. His reaction to everything that goes on in his spy world always hits me with a little bit of comedy and that’s what I love about the show. It borders right on the edge of not believing a computer nerd at a retail store can be a spy and pulling it off.
As far as the C&S thing goes, yeah it does get a little old after a while, but if that is the only reason you are watching the show that’s ridiculous. There are plenty of awesome things that have come from this season, Morgan finding out Chuck’s secret, Casey adjusting to civilian life (in a suit no less!), same old buy more hijinks, etc.
Also, everyone seems to blame Shaw for all this angst, while forgetting that Chuck made the decision to become a spy. He is the one that feels like he was to do this for Sarah and him to be together, while in fact that is not the case. I think that this journey the TPTB are taking us on will show that this is what is needed for Chuck to come to that realization.
So to totally write off the show because a couple of episodes that you may not have liked is irrational. Finish out the season, and if it did not meet to your satisfaction at the end then you can make your decision not to come back. sorry for the rant
If I were watching this show just to see Charah, then I would have stopped watch it after episode 3.08. I’m not complaining about the performence of the cast. They actually been going a great job for what they have been given. It’s the writers and show runners missing the mark. They have some good ideas but apparently turn out to be poorly executed.
I’m not saying that all the elements of the show are bad. It just needs to flow together better and it’s not. Right now, I pretty much enjoy every character except for Chuck, Sarah, and Shaw. I really miss the amusing Chuck/Sarah/Casey interaction because its been mostly absent or distracted by the boring Shaw character.
Nice post B. This is what ive been trying to say entirely. You can’t judge the season as a whole until it’s finished. I have a feeling that there will be some reveals about “The Ring” that will make us look back at the episodes and appreciate what they foreshadowed. And to tell your friends not to watch is just plain selfish. Don’t taint their oppinion on a show if they haven’t seen it for themselves.
I disagreed with you TB… Is no more entertaining to watch chuck anymore. They have good cast but the story line destroy some good characters. If u watch chuck season 1 and 2.. u will understand the angst. Not because of sarah and chuck relationship. Its just not entertaining anymore like before.
It’s OK to disagree, but remember that it is your opinion, not everyone’s. I am still quite entertained by the show, and obviously so are a lot of other fans.
High five! I need to quite commenting! I feel like I have comment OCD.
I need to QUIT commenting too. Jeremy, you’re so funny. Thank you, Jeremy.
This season might just be the last! Unless the producers return to story between Chuck and Sarah. The show is was a very good story, until this season. The stories should focus on the priciples. Shaw should just be killed off. More could of been done with Chucks’ dad. If the producers are smart tell do more with getting the priciples together and not just in the last 10 seconds of the last show this season. Drop the drama and create the results.
I’ve been a lurker two season now, but I would like to say this: I cannot in good conscience wish for a season 4. Season 3 has been poor. Had Chuck been a new show, I wouldn’t have watched it past Pink Slip, frankly. But being committed from the pilot, I have watched this season as if it were homework.
I am not now and have never been a shipper. Quite the opposite, in fact. The Chuck/Sarah thing is absurdly overblown and it has overwhelmed the entire show. So what if Chuck and Sarah are rushed together in the end of the original part of the season? The writers and producers will simply create more Tweener angst if they get a fourth season. For me, enough is enough. Thank you for listening.
Chuck season 3 took too long to get started and I think Shaw and Hannah were among the weaker guest roles in the series (no slight to the actors, they were just given lame roles with poor dialogue). Bringing Shaw/Hannah front and center left less time for Casey and Sarah. Their characters were stuck in a holding pattern.
What exactly did Hannah bring to the table? Lou redux?
Granted, the pacing and writing has improved (I wonder if the writers and producers were just getting used to a reduced budget and fewer characters to draw from) but if I was a new watcher of the show (or maybe caught a few season 1 episodes before the strike and was coming back to try it again in season 3) I’d have probably forgotten about it during the Olympics-imposed hiatus too.
For the record – I’d be happy if Chuck and Sarah got together, I’d be happy if they stayed friends. Hell, I’m even ok with the angst. It’s not the direction they take that matters, it’s how they execute it.
I remember the tingle I got from “Chuck” in Season 2:
-When he asked Sarah for a real date and she told him he was fantastic.
-When he kissed her to humour Roan Montgomery.
-When she told him from her hospital bed that he wouldn’t always come in
second to Bryce.
-When he had her back at the HS reunion, and she was ready to tell him one
secret from her past.
-When he made a wish as the satellite burnt in the night sky, and he looked
at her.
-When she took his hand and said they were better as a team.
-When he was there for her when her father let her down.
-When she got his bracelet and said she’d never let anyone hurt him.
-When they held each other during the climax of the “Suburbs” download.
-When she told Cole Barker that she cared about Chuck and couldn’t walk away
from him.
-When she rescued him from the bank vault, and he told Beckman that they cared
about each other.
-When she told him to lose his wristwatch and said “we have to run.”
-When they awoke in that motel in Barstow.
-When she told Bryce that she wasn’t going to leave Chuck for the new mission.
Where have all the good times gone? No more tingles. I used to end up happy after an episode of “Chuck”. Now I’m unhappy. The promised payoff in the finale is scant compensation for the loss of weekly enjoyment.
@Doctor Bob
Although it saddens me that you are disappinted with this season you obviously proved you are a dedicated Chuck fan. I got that “tingle” too in all those scenes and many more season 2 and 1. But for me I still get that tingle, a different kind of tingle though, more of a sad one, but a tingle none the less. I get this tingle because I remember all those good times and the character Chuck used to be. When I see how much Chuck is changing I really feel bad for him, I KNOW the character. So to me, I think what they’re doing this season is more focused on the fans than ever. Because only the true and dedicated fans can really feel what Chuck is going through. Remember that character and put yourself into his position and maybe that will help bring the tingle back when something like him breaking up with Hannah or burning an asset happens.
I am really impressed with Season 3. The storyline is really good. These last three episodes have been game changers. I can’t see why everyone is so disappointed; if its about the lack of romance between Chuck and Sarah through out the season, you know that in the coming episodes it will change. All this tension between them–which has increased now, since she thinks Chuck killed that guy, and Chuck can’t tell her the truth–is one of the things that makes this show so fun to watch. The relationship will take a turn for the best when Sarah finally founds out what really happened that night. It promises to be a good scene.
I too, am impressed with Season 3. I think Zachary is doing a fantastic job portraying Chuck as he grapples with becoming the spy he ‘thinks’ Sarah wanted him to be. I love it that Morgan now knows Chuck’s secret. There is some untapped comedy there.
I just don’t understand why Sarah’s character has ended up being so underused (for lack of a better term) this season so far. She is just not the Sarah that I remember. She is not as strong a character as in Seasons 1 &2, I think. I am hoping that will change in the upcoming episodes. I miss her smiles and affection towards Chuck.
As for so many people saying that the show has become so dark……remember the Christmas episode in Season 2 where Sarah shot and killed the unarmed Fulcrum agent……in season 1 where Chuck was going to be taken underground and had that emotional and tearful scene with Sarah on the rooftop and the agent got shot in the back…..the episode with Chevy Chase’s character, Roark taking Chuck’s dad away…. and all the shooting and killing at Ellie’s and Devon’s first wedding?
I think there is still some very fine comedy at the Buy More with Lester, Jeff and Morgan. I am just waiting for Casey to really get back at Lester and Jeff. hahaha
I still LOVE THIS SHOW!!!
2 weeks ago was the DST, monday was the return of DWTS and the next week maybe House will be back and the rating will go down again. 🙁
And it will be another angst episode by the look of things.
In episode 13 we will see Chuck fight for Sarah but maybe will be too late.
man, i thought i was sad when arrested development got cancelled, but I’m going to be in my own personal abyss when they pull the plug on my boy Chuck!
There is nothing else like it on TV. I absolutely love this show and will do my part and tune in at 8 and again at 10 on citytv even though it will go unnoticed as i don’t have a ratings box. :o(
Does anyone know if it will make any difference in ratings numbers if I purchase episodes of Chuck through zune via my xbox?
Hmmmm, desperate times call for desperate measures!
The writers have completely destroyed the relationship between Chuck and Sarah this season and it’s getting to the point where most people are beyond caring whether or not they get together because the whole WTWT theme has been dragged out for far too long. Let’s face it, even if they do get together in the next few episodes it won’t have the same impact or be believable as there have been very few moments this season where we have seen the love tension between Chuck and Sarah so how can we be expected to believe that they still love each other especially after Sarah declaring that she doesn’t love Chuck anymore. How do you recover from something like that and have us believe that she didn’t really mean it?
The hype about Chuck and Sarah finally talking about what happened in Prague was yet again disappointing because as usual it was a one-sided conversation. We didn’t even get to see Sarah’s reaction to what he was saying because she was looking through the binoculars. This constant theme of Chuck doing all the talking and Sarah saying nothing is getting really boring. For almost 3 years she has been unable to open up to Chuck about anything (and she supposedly loved him) and yet she seems to have no problem spilling the beans to Shaw whom she just met. Yeah right!! Some people reckon that it’s because she considers Shaw an equal and Chuck an asset but I don’t believe that for a moment. If she really loved Chuck she would have found a way to tell him how she feels.
In my opinion, having Shaw in the show for so long has been a big mistake as he completely changes the dynamics and not in a good way. The episodes without him have been far more enjoyable to watch because it was good to see the old team back together again and it also opened up the opportunity to show some love tension between Chuck and Sarah.
Judging by the promo for Ep12 Chuck will be taking a back seat to the growing relationship between Shaw and Sarah. Yes, he tells Sarah that he loves her but I think we all know what will happen … cue an interruption. Yawn!!
The storyline this season has been poor and often out of sync with the show and characters. I know that the characters need to grow and develop in order for the show to move on, but I disagree with how the writers have handled it. Unfortunately, season 3 gets the thumbs down from me as I find myself expecting to be disappointed with every episode which means the show is no longer fun to watch.
100% agree, the writers really messed up the Chuck/Sarah relationship as far as I’m concerned. when they do get together, it won’t be believable period!
wasnt as impressed with this episode as i was with the previous 2. I’m very happy with chuck finally being a spy. One thing i don’t get, and i read someone else suggesting this aswell, why is sarah so angry at chuck for killing someone when she has killed so many people in the past….a bit unfair isn’t it? Obviously me like alot of the other fans would have enjoyed this show much more if there wasnt any angst and for goddness sake can we get rid of shaw, he’s just about exciting as watching grass grow, no disrespect to brandon routh, i think he is portraying the character the way he is being told, its just his characted is an awful character.
I am really hoping the next few episodes get better, because i don’t know how much longer i can actually watch this show. I will admit i did not watch this show live as i was watching another show, and to be honest after watching this episode i do not regret my decsion. Next week i will watch it live because i think it will be the episode were the angst will end, if not chances are i won’t be watching it live again!
I agree with most comments here about the changes not being good for Chuck. The delay in re-airing the show helped to build expectations. I too participated in the save Chuck campaigns. I would still like to see the show. It is unfortunate that the creators of the show who were saved by the grass roots fan base do not seem to listen to that same fan base.
I too felt that the Shaw addition was bad unless he turned out to be a double agent. I was disappointed on the recent Casey changes, I am sure Chuck will get him back on the team. Chuck is more charming being the geek with skills they need and some flaws are good. It is escapism to see your self in Chuck, wow if that was me kind of thing.
I do not know if the creators read these postings Someone should send them to them . The voice of those who saved the show, I hope it is not too late to make it work.
As far as the comment that if they get renewed it would be a stop gap measure. That is only true if the creators do not change things back a bit more. It seems TV has problems writing for a successful relationship…
I agree with most comments here about the changes not being good for Chuck. The delay in re-airing the show helped to build expectations. I too participated in the save Chuck campaigns. I would still like to see the show. It is unfortunate that the creators of the show who were saved by the grass roots fan base do not seem to listen to that same fan base.
I too felt that the Shaw addition was bad unless he turned out to be a double agent. I was disappointed on the recent Casey changes, I am sure Chuck will get him back on the team. Chuck is more charming being the geek with skills they need and some flaws are good. It is escapism to see your self in Chuck, wow if that was me kind of thing.
I do not know if the creators read these postings Someone should send them to them . The voice of those who saved the show, I hope it is not too late to make it work.
As far as the comment that if they get renewed it would be a stop gap measure. That is only true if the creators do not change things back a bit more. It seems TV has problems writing for a successful relationship…
Seriously? When is chuck going to kill someone? I am so tired of him trying to be a spy without actually doing what is necessary. I was so pumped about this episode that he was finally going to become a spy just to be let down b/c of the false implications it was under. I want to him actually do spy stuff and kill people…He has been given every opportunity to kill someone yet someone always steps in… when is he going to be the one stepping in?
I am from Bosnia and Herzegovina so sorry for mistakes. I think seasons 1 and 2 were great in their way and season 3 in its own way. And if we get a 4th season i think it would be a combination of both and it would be awesome. As far as i see there are a lot of people here who do not like season 3 but i don`t think you should stop watching chuck because in the end you will regret it. Everybody has parts of the show that they don`t like but the writers cannot fulfill everybody`s wishes and we should just be calm and wait for the end. And also all of this discussions and the number of comments shows that we all really love this show but i think the producers do too. So lets just keep watching and enjoying.
The main reason chuck fans angst because they have contribute their times, money and voices to extend chuck to season 3. NBC already dumped chuck. The writers stated that season 3 will be a great season for chuck and sarah. But this did not happened. Secondly, some of the characters was poorly executed in season 3 compare to season 1 & 2. If you were there u might have the same sentiment to some of the comments here.
oh i forgot that it was the fans who brought Chuck back and i do understand all of you but i hope there is gonna be a 4th season
I don’t post very often, but have been coming to this site over the past few weeks. I have read some valid points here as to the reasons for the ratings drop, and I’d like to think that some of it does involve DST. With the longer daylight hours, our family does tend to stay out & away from the tv longer (except on CHUCK night, when I rush to get home as fast as I can to tune in)! A lot of people with TIVO or DVR’s just watch their favorite shows later. Seeing the drop in ratings is disheartening to say the least. There have been some bumps in the road for CHUCK this season but, I like where the story is going. Zachary Levi has done an incredible job in portraying the development of the character. And even with the more serious turn the show has taken, there have still been laughs and incredible moments this year. One aspect I do miss is having all the core characters together in some of the episodes due to the budget constraints. Shaw was not a good addition to the cast of characters and that’s all I’ll say about that.
HOWEVER……CHUCK is still a very smart, action-filled, entertaining, & thought provoking, discussion inducing show (just look at how the blogs & messageboards have been clogging up lately)–it’s so unfortunate that it didn’t really catch on in the first season due to the timing of the writers’ strike (& the Mon. 8 pm time slot, IMO), and has been hanging on for dear life since its beginning. CHUCK has always been the David vs Goliath (ABC’s DWTS). It saddens me to see some of the criticisms of the show we all fought to save….we are in a society that pushes instant gratification, I want it now. It would be great to see more patience in letting the stories evolve and just enjoying the ride with this unique, original show. There is still plenty to love about CHUCK.
I never, ever got involved in any sort of campaign to save a tv show in my life, until last spring with CHUCK. And I would do it again in a heartbeat if called upon. I am invested in CHUCK, its characters, and simply the entertainment value of the show. My hope & prayer is that the ratings will improve in the coming weeks and that it will get a 4th season. I want to remain optimistic, & wish that NBC would just go ahead & renew.
Sorry for the long post….I hope I didn’t insult anyone or didn’t stray too far off original ratings topic. Thanks.
I never did anything like the campaign either. Never cared to till this show. And I’ll do it again this summer if necessary. I hate Subway food and I ate those $5 mofo’s like they were going out of style! Haha. I agree with you 110%.
Well said. Hard to refute with that. People are so stubborn and so quick to write off a show they used to love, it’s ridiculous. Thank you for this post.
i don’t think were stubborn and we havent been quick to write of this show. Were up to episode 12 now and the chuck/sarah relationship has given fans like myself absolutely nothing.
It seems like Chuck has lost his magic.
They were supposed to shoot a 13 ep season, when nbc suddently increased the order of 9 more eps. I guess showrunners are dealing very badly with that.
I mean, some good moments are followed by a lot of fillers…just to stretch the story. Writers are not doing a great job, and the team has been reduced due to budget cuts. That explain a lot of things. Plus JS has some issue with almost any seasons 3 of his shows.
My 2 cents
tnx
Wow. I understand why some people are getting fatigued by the angst. I can. But I can’t believe the vitriol that I reading. All signs… and I mean all signs, point to an amazing turnaround. It promises to be wildly romantic. And spoilers aside, it just makes sense from a story telling perspective.
Hang in there for two more weeks. You won’t be sorry. And if you don’t, you’ll miss an amazing story.
Come on giys, judge the story when it’s finished, not in the middle.
It’s going to be amazing.
sorry BillAtWork but not all signs say its going to be great for chuck, sarah or the show
1. chris fedeck said sarah and shaws relationship is significant
2. Ausillos has suggested a shows character gets pregnant and we will not know whos the daddy til season 4 he mentioned the fans were a bit wild. That sounds like chuck to me so i will lay bets its sarah and it could be shaws or chucks maybe it the kind of gossip girl cliff hanger they would pull but sadly there will be no season 4 to see the resolution. I read somewhere that an interview with yvonne strahovski that she suggested sarah got pregnant and it would keep them apart.
3. Shaw is in at least 3.19 which means hes still around. Lets be honest hes a plywood actor.
4. right now i cannot see how or why chuck and sarah would be together. Really they have both acted terribly and she has been terrible to him any real friend would tell chuck to stay away from her she has too many issues
sorry i see no good signs
other than a wild optomism that has been dashed all season
I would bet that the pregnant character is Anna Wu, she did leave Morgan for another man, but people are going to jump to conclusions and assume that it is Sarah. Shaw will probably end up being a bad guy in the end, so that would probably explain why he returns, plus I have a feeling that this story is really just getting started. The last five or six episodes were the best of last year, I would be willing to bet that the last five or six episodes will be the best of all time this year. It would be such a mistake to quit watching right when the show gets epic!
Just getting started its 12 episodes into the season.
Yes its possible that its Anna Wu or even not chuck but i would be willing to bet its chuck.
Maybe Shaw does end out being a bad guy it may make many fans happier.
I hope your right but after what i have seen this season I really am not hopeful. We used to have family viewing of this show around my aunts as shes a box owner. I was hoping that the next 6 would be back to good old chuck but cool spy couple i really do not think thats on the cards.. oh well covers is coming.
In regards to your #2 comment: I find it very hard to believe that Yvonne Strahovski (or any other cast member from the show for that matter) would reveal secrets of the show’s upcoming episode plots in an interview, esp. that far in advance.
it went something like
is there anything that could keep chuck and sarah apart
yes thats shes pregnant laughs
i looked for it but it was back sometime late last year sadly internet being the internet its not possible to find anymore.
I agree though it would be odd to say that so early on thats what struck me about it and indeed made me go wow really. It sort of made me think ah right ok their is major problems this season between chuck and sarah. It fitted with the PLIs stuff we were hearing.
not only Sarah even i heard it from Shaw,,,,,i don’t think that will happen Timlay, i don’t think show-runners will be so rude to the fans.
guys if something like that would happen cum-on,,,it’s abominable to watch,,,,,,i suppose Sarah said that may be to suggest the writers that she would love to have something physical with Shaw…..but if she would truly mean that oh man, she has forgotten who and what brought name and fame to her………by the way i am on the concept that “significant death in last epic is Sarah walker”…..but i want it to be right.
With all due respect, your “facts” are incorrect.
1. Chris Fedak didn’t say that.
2. Ausiello said a character on some drama gets pregnant. To suggest it’s Sarah is really out there.
3. We don’t know that Shaw is in anything past 3.13.
4. Let’s get together in two weeks and discuss this again. I think you’ll be saying something different.
It’s ok to be frustrated. But your post is bordering on troll territory.
Look, folks. A few weeks ago the number of people who watched Chuck started with a 7. Now it starts with a 5. Lot’s of reasons for that. I can’t do anything about those 2 milion. But I can talk to you. We’re about to see what we’ve waited for 3 years to see.
Do you want to miss it? I sure as hell don’t.
why is it you always attack people calling them names when you do not like what they are saying there is a reason why the numbers are down. I have been very reasonable and i am not the minority and this is a place to discuss things. I have never attacked a fellow poster, why is it people like you do then call us names. I am not saying anything that no one else is saying.. Its bullying.
When did I call you a name? I simply pointed out that the things that you listed as facts are anything but. I don’t think that inciting folks who are already on edge with a bunch of disinformation is helpful.
I have an idea. Let’s table this discussion for 2 weeks. If I’m wrong, I’m come back here and apologize. Will you do the same? How about it?
You called a troll.. i have not attacked you or anyone.
I never said they were facts I said things like i reckon …i cannot see how .. etc ect they were my views
what Fedak said was yes he did not say significant sorry but he did say
TVGuide.com: Sarah (Yvonne Strahovski) and Shaw (Brandon Routh) seem to be getting closer. Will they get serious?
Fedak: Absolutely. I think as she’s watched Chuck change this season — and that he seems to be changing from the guy that she fell in love with — [she realizes] Shaw is the guy that she should’ve been with in the first place. He’s a guy who shares much of her professional experience. She’s not a normal girl and Shaw’s not a normal guy. They know that world and are obviously attracted to each other. There’s a version of reality where he’s the perfect guy for her.
Sure BillAtWork a while back i apoligised to OD after i accused him of being a fan who just liked anything that chuck show did. But when he actually came out and said well 3.07 damaged the tokens of the characters i found alot of respect for him. Its not they get together not really that bothered about that any more its that the story is fun and makes sense to the characters. I know you hardcore fans are on damage control and i wish this had all been different. I just think we have to be at least honest the wild optomism has really damaged the show this year. People have been really shocked including me.
I will say this they may get them together who knows, do not really care anymore as i really do not believe they are truly in love.
If they do (and do it well and explain the crap behaviour and shallow stupid sarah behaviour) sarah and chuck has been really flaky this year and not the cool spy girl that she was. I will apolgise to you BillAtWork if they deal with the bizarre behaviour I want a realistic story. I may even watch 3.13 sorry not interested in 3.12 (must not tell the folks though family rule is i can see spoilers but not watch).
1. dating another spy she works with
2. falling for that spy over coffee and back rub
3. throwing a stupid hissy fit when chuck being responsible would not run away with her
4. saying to chuck i cannot be with you as your my asset
5. saying to chuck i cannot be with you as your a spy but i can go out with that other spy
cause chucks been a birk this year especially with hannah. Mind you i could understand it Sarah kept giving him the cold shoulder. I would have moved on after her behaviour at the train station. To be honest i actually found him and hannah a better couple. I was not really a massive sarah fan she always treated chuck like a puppy it always seemed like she maybe handling him keeping him under her thumb. I begun to like her later half of second season.
You didn’t read my post. Or you simply don’t understand it. I did NOT call you a troll. I said that your post bordered on troll territory. There is a significant difference.
And when you list a bunch of statements, you need to be able to have them challeneged. Especially when they were 100% wrong.
I stand behind my view that in two weeks we are going to be saying – “Wow. We waited 3 years for that.”
And if you think that I’m a water carrier for the show – wow. You don’t know me very well, lol. I’m willing to be critical. I’ll agree that some parts of this season make me wince.
But that’s not what we are discussing. I still say, in two weeks, this discussion will take an entirely different tone. That we are going to see things that we’ve always wanted to see.
if sarah is pregnant with shaw’s baby that will be it for the show at least for me, that’s crossing the line for me, and they could never regain sarah’s integrity for me!
There is no way Sarah is preggers! They are just putting that out to get people talking and speculating to raise interest, but those types of spoilers are always misleading.
maybe hanna is pregnant, that would be very plausible, i don’t think sarah or shaw would be that careless
Well, there is a possibilities that sarah pregnant. The writers in season 3 loves and happy to create angst among fans….